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Old 02-09-2024, 05:41 PM
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Shirin Tang and Lip Kian Ang of MoFo leaving for Bakers

"boring monday afternoon" indeed
How will this affect Theo Heng as the next bright leader of Baker M&A?

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Old 02-09-2024, 07:55 PM
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Take whatever you can get obviously. No brainer.

People like to s**t on HSF but every Big4 trainee or associate who's slogging it out underpaid and overworked will take a HSF role in a heartbeat.
no one is disputing the pay. I think OP's question was directed towards exit options?

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Any idea why they move?? I thought people only aspire to move from SG to US firm and not vice versa rofl.
Isn't Baker a Chicago firm and the OG international firm.

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no one is disputing the pay. I think OP's question was directed towards exit options?
heard from a friend that their trainees are being paid 10k p/m during the 1 yr TC
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no one is disputing the pay. I think OP's question was directed towards exit options?
Pretty sure HSF is* an exit option lol (great pay, nice team, progression, focus on sg/asia, good industry focus, etc.)
how many big four ppl would kill to be there?

Also, pretty sure firms would be more willing to hire someone from HSF vs say someone from WongP.

They work regularly with int'l lawyers and teams on int'l deals, as compared to sg lawyers who work opposite such int'l lawyers.

Separately, a HSF lawyer will definitely stand out against a minimum of all of the jepalang big four/other sg firms fighting for the same place. It's hard even for those guys to stand out against their peers lol.
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Isn't Baker a Chicago firm and the OG international firm.
"I think people look at Baker a bit as a McFirm, like a Dentons...it does a decent amount of low margin, commoditized work and does not pay market in some offices...I would not say it is a particularly prestigious name."

"Baker is historically a Chicago firm but went with the Swiss Verein model and has transformed in a low stakes paper mill that sells itself as "international" because it's basically runs under a franchise model. Comparisons to Dentons aren't unjustified."

s://.reddit.com/r/biglaw/comments/190qzfq/mayer_brownbaker_mckenzie_reputation_in_the_us/?rdt=42383
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"I think people look at Baker a bit as a McFirm, like a Dentons...it does a decent amount of low margin, commoditized work and does not pay market in some offices...I would not say it is a particularly prestigious name."

"Baker is historically a Chicago firm but went with the Swiss Verein model and has transformed in a low stakes paper mill that sells itself as "international" because it's basically runs under a franchise model. Comparisons to Dentons aren't unjustified."

s://.reddit.com/r/biglaw/comments/190qzfq/mayer_brownbaker_mckenzie_reputation_in_the_us/?rdt=42383
"Both [Bakers and Mayer Brown] are historically Chicago firms. Both are fine, but Mayer Brown is a step above Baker by a good amount both in Chicago and in the US. For perspective, it's in the solid upper mid-tier behind Kirkland Ellis and Sidley Austin, and maybe on par or a little worse in Chicago than the Chicago offices of non-Chicago firms like Skadden and Latham. ...

Baker is historically a Chicago firm but went with the Swiss Verein model and has transformed in a low stakes paper mill that sells itself as "international" because it's basically runs under a franchise model. Comparisons to Dentons aren't unjustified. The big advantage of Baker though is they have offices literally everywhere. ..."

Would all of this apply to Singapore too?
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"Both [Bakers and Mayer Brown] are historically Chicago firms. Both are fine, but Mayer Brown is a step above Baker by a good amount both in Chicago and in the US. For perspective, it's in the solid upper mid-tier behind Kirkland Ellis and Sidley Austin, and maybe on par or a little worse in Chicago than the Chicago offices of non-Chicago firms like Skadden and Latham. ...

Baker is historically a Chicago firm but went with the Swiss Verein model and has transformed in a low stakes paper mill that sells itself as "international" because it's basically runs under a franchise model. Comparisons to Dentons aren't unjustified. The big advantage of Baker though is they have offices literally everywhere. ..."

Would all of this apply to Singapore too?
No. The Singapore payscale is Baker >> Mayer Brown > Dentons.
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No. The Singapore payscale is Baker >> Mayer Brown > Dentons.
Is this really true? How do we know you're not just some rando law student pulling numbers from their a ss
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No. The Singapore payscale is Baker >> Mayer Brown > Dentons.
Comment translated for the unordained: Wong & Leow >> PK Wong & Nair > Rodyk & Davidson??

Poster is probably from Baker, cos the reality is A&G, WongP, D&N and R&T beats them all.
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