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Old 02-09-2024, 11:51 AM
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What's the new training regime like in terms of pay and call break for 2024 trainees? Seems like the incoming trainees have yet to hear from their firms on the new arrangements
We (Trainees) are waiting on our firms, who are in turn waiting on SILE... to publish the official training guidelines.

Note that the consultation paper released by SILE regarding training arrangements was only just that - a consultation paper (saying things like we have 18 days leave, etc etc). But it needs to be confirmed by SILE in official guidelines for it to be taken seriously by the firms.

We are all waiting on SILE.

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Old 02-09-2024, 02:22 PM
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Thoughts on the new training scheme by HSF? Is it comparable to those offered by the MC firms in SG and is this a good place to start if my goal is to lateral to a MC firm in future?

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Thoughts on the new training scheme by HSF? Is it comparable to those offered by the MC firms in SG and is this a good place to start if my goal is to lateral to a MC firm in future?
Take whatever you can get obviously. No brainer.

People like to s**t on HSF but every Big4 trainee or associate who's slogging it out underpaid and overworked will take a HSF role in a heartbeat.

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Take whatever you can get obviously. No brainer.

People like to s**t on HSF but every Big4 trainee or associate who's slogging it out underpaid and overworked will take a HSF role in a heartbeat.
Thoughts on HSF vs solid American firms? especially for energy work? (say the likes of Mayer Brown, K&L Gates, Hogan Lovells, to an extent BMWL) (c.f. elite firms like Latham, Milbank, W&C, etc.)
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I think we all know how it's like to work with SG partners/counsels.

In contrast, how is it like working with American, English and Australian lawyers?

Would like to hear experiences (especially those from big 4 who transitioned to international firms)

Thanks!
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what a boring monday afternoon
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what a boring monday afternoon
Shirin Tang and Lip Kian Ang of MoFo leaving for Bakers

"boring monday afternoon" indeed
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Shirin Tang and Lip Kian Ang of MoFo leaving for Bakers

"boring monday afternoon" indeed
Any idea why they move?? I thought people only aspire to move from SG to US firm and not vice versa rofl.
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Thoughts on the new training scheme by HSF? Is it comparable to those offered by the MC firms in SG and is this a good place to start if my goal is to lateral to a MC firm in future?
They pay on par (and in individual cases, may be even better) with the MC firms at an associate level. Work-wise, I think you should expect similar levels of quantity and quality to the MC firms in Singapore. The SG office however seems to be investing heavily on private equity and energy work so if you are interested in that, might be worthwhile.


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Any idea why they move?? I thought people only aspire to move from SG to US firm and not vice versa rofl.
Where there is a team defection, usually there is disagreement at the partners' level. Maybe they felt sidelined by HQ's plans for this region, maybe their profit sharing points kena cut etc who knows. I am just curious if Baker is gonna match their US pay scale for the defecting associates lol. Hard to justify such big differential pay difference among the associates if they do..
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