Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

is 8,000 pm salary good for a 4 PQE lawyer in a SG law practice?

No, someone just said they're drawing 12k at 4pqe and that's pretty meh. I agree.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

It’s only because the OP brought in his/her parents. No, I’m serious, if your parents took out $200K to send you overseas, the least you could do is study hard, get a good job, and let them worry less about your future right?

In house jobs are great, but didn’t OP say his job is paying $4K+, then this isn’t full fledged in house role right

What exactly do you mean by "full fledged in house role"? In house is in house. The pay is scaled based on your experience and expertise.

If its 4k+ now for OP, it probably means OP got called to the bar recently (1-2 years ago) correct me if I am wrong OP.

That being said, he can still stay in that role for 1-2 years, learn as much as possible and then move elsewhere that pays 8-9k with his/her 3-4 years experience under the belt.

Either you have a really narrow view of the legal industry or you have no idea what in house means.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What exactly do you mean by "full fledged in house role"? In house is in house. The pay is scaled based on your experience and expertise.

If its 4k+ now for OP, it probably means OP got called to the bar recently (1-2 years ago) correct me if I am wrong OP.

That being said, he can still stay in that role for 1-2 years, learn as much as possible and then move elsewhere that pays 8-9k with his/her 3-4 years experience under the belt.

Either you have a really narrow view of the legal industry or you have no idea what in house means.

the guy lanjiao one la anyhow talk cock. smlj ROI who the hell cares about that. Anyone can tell that the person talking about ROI is definitely below 20 years old and thinking about pursuing a law degree with parent's money.

he did give me a good laugh though. "not full fletched in house" hahahahahahahaha clown

Originally Posted by Unregistered

the guy lanjiao one la anyhow talk cock. smlj ROI who the hell cares about that. Anyone can tell that the person talking about ROI is definitely below 20 years old and thinking about pursuing a law degree with parent's money.

he did give me a good laugh though. "not full fletched in house" hahahahahahahaha clown

nothing wrong with wanting to know ROI though. Before I went into NUS I did consider going to LSE as well since I received both offers back then and the only reason I accepted NUS was because it was too expensive and NUS was/is still top 10 in the world.

But that mindset was when I was doing National Service/did not know what I know now and on hindsight, was very naive of me.

maybe that person is also considering to do law overseas and wants to know ROI because his parents are not that well to do.

Honestly, numbers don’t lie. ROI is an indicator of whether it was worthwhile to pursue that route / option, seriously.

Next time you all buy house, you all also wanna know whether have capital again, and whether it’s worthwhile to service the interest on the mortgage against your rental yield.

Likewise, there are plenty of smart kids who scored 4-5As and did well in an arts course and joined the govt, banks, consultancies, etc.

So I’m just saying maybe the OP didn’t like law in the first place, and it’s just a pity for him, because he sounds v smart since he got a full scholarship overseas. Maybe if he had just done arts locally, he wouldn’t have suffered and in all likelihood would be drawing a better pay without doing what he perceives to be dreadful work.

That’s all!

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Honestly, numbers don’t lie. ROI is an indicator of whether it was worthwhile to pursue that route / option, seriously.

Next time you all buy house, you all also wanna know whether have capital again, and whether it’s worthwhile to service the interest on the mortgage against your rental yield.

Likewise, there are plenty of smart kids who scored 4-5As and did well in an arts course and joined the govt, banks, consultancies, etc.

So I’m just saying maybe the OP didn’t like law in the first place, and it’s just a pity for him, because he sounds v smart since he got a full scholarship overseas. Maybe if he had just done arts locally, he wouldn’t have suffered and in all likelihood would be drawing a better pay without doing what he perceives to be dreadful work.

That’s all!

what the **** is wrong with you

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Honestly, numbers don’t lie. ROI is an indicator of whether it was worthwhile to pursue that route / option, seriously.

Next time you all buy house, you all also wanna know whether have capital again, and whether it’s worthwhile to service the interest on the mortgage against your rental yield.

Likewise, there are plenty of smart kids who scored 4-5As and did well in an arts course and joined the govt, banks, consultancies, etc.

So I’m just saying maybe the OP didn’t like law in the first place, and it’s just a pity for him, because he sounds v smart since he got a full scholarship overseas. Maybe if he had just done arts locally, he wouldn’t have suffered and in all likelihood would be drawing a better pay without doing what he perceives to be dreadful work.

That’s all!

Nobody is shitting on your point on ROI. Everyone is shitting on your ridiculous position that you took on not being full fledged in house/4k per month take home as in house is trash = disappointment to parents and not being filial.

Even taking your **** take at its highest the alternative to your position is to stick on to the previous **** role because it pays 1k more = filial to parents. Your ROI here is to destroy your mental health to get 12k comp more per year.

Very easy to talk **** when it’s not you btw but atleast come up with something with sense ya

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I’ve never understood how anyone plans for this. It is such a long shot statistically speaking. Although lawyers being prestige hunters, I suppose this is the holy grail almost.

The vast majority of posters in this forum are either totally divorced from reality, or just plain trolling. Don't need to think so hard.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The vast majority of posters in this forum are either totally divorced from reality, or just plain trolling. Don't need to think so hard.

100% agree. Though I’ve always wondered the extent to which top litigators aspire to serve as a judge. I can imagine no such ambition for most corporate lawyers - and I’m very much in that category - but is that something top litigators, or public service lawyers or academics in fact dream of? Not sure any of them are camping here but love to hear from the litigators in the room.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

100% agree. Though I’ve always wondered the extent to which top litigators aspire to serve as a judge. I can imagine no such ambition for most corporate lawyers - and I’m very much in that category - but is that something top litigators, or public service lawyers or academics in fact dream of? Not sure any of them are camping here but love to hear from the litigators in the room.

Pretty sure when you're a somewhat established, middle-aged litigator, you get tired of being scrutinised and chided by young ARs, especially since some of them are as young as your kids. Maybe that's when they start to have fancy dreams of becoming a judge.