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Old 08-10-2023, 08:27 PM
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How many trainees do the firms offering E&W tc take? (some of them are dual Sg/E&W)

As far as I know the firms are:
- CC
- NRF
- Simmons
- Ashurst
- Latham
- Sidley
- HSF
As far as I know the firms are:
- CC: 4
- NRF: 3 rlt, 4 ptc (ptc may not be from rlt; unknown as to whether e&w qual)
- Simmons: 2-3
- Ashurst: 1-2
- Latham: up to 4?
- Sidley: unsure
- HSF: 1-2 e&w, 1 rlt/ptc

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How many trainees do the firms offering E&W tc take? (some of them are dual Sg/E&W)

As far as I know the firms are:
- CC
- NRF
- Simmons
- Ashurst
- Latham
- Sidley
- HSF
As far as I know the firms are:
- A&O: unsure, but can't be more than 4
- CC: 4
- HSF: 1-2 e&w, 1 rlt/ptc (prolegis)
- Latham: unsure, but can't be more than 4
- Links: 2-3 each year (they take sq NQs and make them do 18 month to be e&w qual)
- Sidley: unsure, but can't be more than 2-3
- Simmons: 2-3

- Ashurst: 1-2 (only rlt/ptc, but make you do 2 years training, only sg-qual)
- NRF: 3 rlt, 4 ptc (ptc may not be from rlt; unknown as to whether e&w qual, but most likely only sg-qual)

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Old 08-10-2023, 08:47 PM
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yes this is true. During my internship at a mid tier corp firm, I met this SMU white horse who went around bragging that he scrapped through law school only by relying on his seniors notes and without preparing for his tutorials. Heard he subsequently graduated amongst the last in his class but nonetheless still above 3.0.
As in he outed himself as a white horse? Why would anyone do that?

All the white horse I know, never ever admit so, until they’re caught in a bind

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As far as I know the firms are:
- A&O: unsure, but can't be more than 4
- CC: 4
- HSF: 1-2 e&w, 1 rlt/ptc (prolegis)
- Latham: unsure, but can't be more than 4
- Links: 2-3 each year (they take sq NQs and make them do 18 month to be e&w qual)
- Sidley: unsure, but can't be more than 2-3
- Simmons: 2-3

- Ashurst: 1-2 (only rlt/ptc, but make you do 2 years training, only sg-qual)
- NRF: 3 rlt, 4 ptc (ptc may not be from rlt; unknown as to whether e&w qual, but most likely only sg-qual)

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Sidley is 1 per year
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Old 09-10-2023, 01:42 AM
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As far as I know the firms are:
- A&O: unsure, but can't be more than 4
- CC: 4
- HSF: 1-2 e&w, 1 rlt/ptc (prolegis)
- Latham: unsure, but can't be more than 4
- Links: 2-3 each year (they take sq NQs and make them do 18 month to be e&w qual)
- Sidley: unsure, but can't be more than 2-3
- Simmons: 2-3

- Ashurst: 1-2 (only rlt/ptc, but make you do 2 years training, only sg-qual)
- NRF: 3 rlt, 4 ptc (ptc may not be from rlt; unknown as to whether e&w qual, but most likely only sg-qual)

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latham is 2-3 but more often 2 in recent years
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Old 09-10-2023, 01:48 AM
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Truth be told, I'd suggest guiding your choices by which kind of law you would like to practice rather than which firm to go.

WongP is good for m&a. Bird & Bird ATMD is known for TMT/IP. NRF is pretty good for int'l arbi.

But they're each different practices of law which require different competencies and personalities.
nrf's rainmaker partner (andrew battisson) also left recently to go to linklaters, in addition to kc lye / other lawyers mentioned in the thread above. their starting is 8.3k for NQ/1PQE so it's not much higher than the local firms, for an international firm. heard ascendant people are really nice and a great team tho.


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Sidley is 1 per year
Which uni?
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hey after securing a tc are grades still important (ofc above the graduation requirement)? for eg does retention rate look at ur gpa or if u wanna move firm after ur tc
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How is 1 year tc going to affect us?


More cheap labour for trainees
And increased pay for NQ?
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Old 09-10-2023, 06:22 PM
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anyone broke tc before? what reasons shld u give & shld u do it a year later so they forgot abt u
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