Lawyer Salary - Page 2026 - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Lawyer Salary

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #20251 (permalink)  
Old 30-09-2023, 01:55 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
You are the daft one. We know all these. You think people haven't tried to apply for waiver over the years? Read what the definition of "profession of law" is in the SAL Rules. It includes inhouse counsel.

We are taking issue with the principle of forcing inhouse counsel to remain as SAL members and/or charging them SAL fees, when most inhousers have absolutely nothing to do with SAL or its services. Not even the most tenuous use of their services.

If my external counsel gave me this kind of kum gong advice, I would fire the firm straight away.
Did you lose your ability to read when you quit for private practice?

If you donít want to pay the fees, quit the profession of law! No one is forcing you to stay in the profession of law.

If youíre not happy with the principle, suck it up



Primary School English Grammar and Vocabulary Drills
Primary School English Grammar and Vocabulary Drills


SG Bus Timing App
SG Bus Timing App - the best bus app - available on iOS and Android


Bursa Stocks Android App - check share prices
Bursa Stocks [Android] App - check latest share prices on the go


SGX Stocks Android App - check share prices
SGX Stocks [Android] App - check latest share prices on the go


SGX Stocks for iPad - check latest Singapore share prices
SGX Stocks [iPad] app
| SGX Stocks [iPhone] app
Reply With Quote
  #20252 (permalink)  
Old 30-09-2023, 02:09 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Did you lose your ability to read when you quit for private practice?

If you donít want to pay the fees, quit the profession of law! No one is forcing you to stay in the profession of law.

If youíre not happy with the principle, suck it up
Lmao. My point about firing kumgong external counsel who give this kind of kumgong advice still stands.

I might put it diplomatically: Panel firm's lawyers lack ability to think laterally and deliver commercial solutions. Would not recommend to re-empanel.

Reply With Quote
  #20253 (permalink)  
Old 30-09-2023, 02:39 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
You are the daft one. We know all these. You think people haven't tried to apply for waiver over the years? Read what the definition of "profession of law" is in the SAL Rules. It includes inhouse counsel.

We are taking issue with the principle of forcing inhouse counsel to remain as SAL members and/or charging them SAL fees, when most inhousers have absolutely nothing to do with SAL or its services. Not even the most tenuous use of their services.

If my external counsel gave me this kind of kum gong advice, I would fire the firm straight away.
Just because you don't attend SAL events doesn't mean you don't benefit from SAL's functions. Part of SAL's remit is to develop the legal industry, of which in-house counsel are a part. If you don't want to pay membership fees, then don't be part of the legal industry.

It's like saying you don't want to pay tax because you don't use public hospitals or don't qualify to buy HDB. Sorry, it does not work that way.

Reply With Quote
  #20254 (permalink)  
Old 30-09-2023, 03:07 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Just because you don't attend SAL events doesn't mean you don't benefit from SAL's functions. Part of SAL's remit is to develop the legal industry, of which in-house counsel are a part. If you don't want to pay membership fees, then don't be part of the legal industry.

It's like saying you don't want to pay tax because you don't use public hospitals or don't qualify to buy HDB. Sorry, it does not work that way.
That's pitching SAL's contributions to the broader industry way too generously.

We can see that SAL's efforts are 99% focused on the private practice side of the legal industry. Most in the inhouse community will see it that way.

SAL can't pick and choose its definition of legal industry. A broad definition when it comes to collecting membership fees, and a narrow focus when it comes to its actual activities "in support" of the industry.

This is a fairly reasoned point you raised, unlike the rubbish responses in the above posts, but I'm not convinced.

If they are indeed doing things to benefit the inhouse community or which they think they are, then they have failed utterly in properly communicating this. As it is, the SCCA does far more than them in every respect of things that actually matter to our work.
Reply With Quote
  #20255 (permalink)  
Old 30-09-2023, 07:16 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
SAL can't pick and choose its definition of legal industry. A broad definition when it comes to collecting membership fees, and a narrow focus when it comes to its actual activities "in support" of the industry.
err yes it can lmao, in the statute

talk about things as they are and not what you wish they were, my client wish he win all his claims without providing any evidence or paying my fees

knn lawyer already but still doing the layman "how come they can do that?!"
Reply With Quote
  #20256 (permalink)  
Old 30-09-2023, 07:23 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Red face

Thereís a reason why OP left private practice instead of making partner

laugh die me at the state of in house counsels nowadays
Reply With Quote

  #20257 (permalink)  
Old 01-10-2023, 08:27 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

What happens if the in-house counsel doesnít retain SAL membership?

Cannot go back private practice?

Like, why didnít everyone just cancel their membership??
Reply With Quote
  #20258 (permalink)  
Old 01-10-2023, 11:48 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
What happens if the in-house counsel doesnít retain SAL membership?

Cannot go back private practice?

Like, why didnít everyone just cancel their membership??
Read the statute and subsidiary legislation. There is no mechanism to cancel your membership. You are a member and have to pay dues as long as you remain employed within legal profession.
Reply With Quote
  #20259 (permalink)  
Old 01-10-2023, 01:55 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Just pay up and let's get this forum back on track.

What's the pay scale for mid tier law firm junior partners like in SLB, CNP, RHT?
Reply With Quote
  #20260 (permalink)  
Old 01-10-2023, 03:34 PM
Chong Huat Proud Daddy
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Who are these lawyers leaving these reviews? GentleBones Daddy will like into invite you for kopi.

RHTLaw Reviews - Glassdoor glassdoor.sg s://.glassdoor.sg õ Reviews õ RHTLaw-Revi... RHTLaw has an overall rating of 2.1 out of 5, based on over 73 reviews left anonymously by employees. 11% of employees would recommend working at RHTLaw. Cons Screaming partner No development for junior lawyers who are left to fend for themselves Senior personnel do not take responsibility for their business There is a female partner who frowns a lot and screams. There is also another female chinese partner who pushes work to junior lawyers with minimum supervision and expects quick replies via whatsapp.Disgusting equity partners (not all, just many) who deserve all the bad karma. From dishing out threats to ruining the livelihoods of employees, their vast array of scheming tactics have been witnessed and attest by many former (and even some current) employees. In my batch of trainees, I found out that a surprisingly large number of young lawyers have connections to the firm in one form or the other, but even then, many have agreed as to the above.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
advocate, law, lawyer, legal, solicitor

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
From Lawyer Insider: Life is Glamorous but Unsatisfying Salary.sg Income and Jobs 31 15-01-2018 12:40 PM

» 30 Recent Threads
Standard Chartered International... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
421 Replies, 233,777 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
12,387 Replies, 4,455,369 Views
How is life as a doctor in... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,715 Replies, 3,085,506 Views
Roles in accenture singapore ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,805 Replies, 2,075,156 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
9,734 Replies, 5,983,345 Views
OCBC Graduate Talent Programme... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,119 Replies, 586,665 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,852 Replies, 3,488,931 Views
NTU (non-faculty) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
148 Replies, 198,836 Views
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
20,555 Replies, 9,686,154 Views
AML/Compliance/KYC professionals... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,826 Replies, 1,177,037 Views
CSA (Cyber Security Agency) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
769 Replies, 432,918 Views
MAS for Mid Career Professionals ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,618 Replies, 927,202 Views
HTX (Home Team Science and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
539 Replies, 254,208 Views
Hospital (Private or Public)... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
723 Replies, 326,596 Views
Factual Local Bank Salaries - DBS... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,533 Replies, 1,188,632 Views
ST Electronics ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
3,512 Replies, 1,382,035 Views
SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,892 Replies, 2,786,428 Views
DSTA (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,381 Replies, 1,274,329 Views
GovTech ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
4,797 Replies, 1,911,427 Views
NCS (SingTel subsidiary) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,301 Replies, 1,039,911 Views
JTC (Jurong Town Corporation) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
54 Replies, 70,870 Views
Anyone work in JPM/GS/Morgan... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
353 Replies, 131,353 Views
Deutsche Bank Corporate Banking...
7 Replies, 3,347 Views
What are BAND 5 positions -... ( 1 2 3)
25 Replies, 11,551 Views
Visa Graduate Development Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
137 Replies, 102,963 Views
High Finance Thread ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,554 Replies, 592,154 Views
LTA (Land Transport Authority) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
523 Replies, 307,513 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,698 Replies, 4,371,819 Views
Civil Service Bonus 2023 Year End
3 Replies, 2,246 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
16,052 Replies, 11,894,624 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 09:16 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2023, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2