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Originally Posted by Unregistered

You are the daft one. We know all these. You think people haven't tried to apply for waiver over the years? Read what the definition of "profession of law" is in the SAL Rules. It includes inhouse counsel.

We are taking issue with the principle of forcing inhouse counsel to remain as SAL members and/or charging them SAL fees, when most inhousers have absolutely nothing to do with SAL or its services. Not even the most tenuous use of their services.

If my external counsel gave me this kind of kum gong advice, I would fire the firm straight away.

Did you lose your ability to read when you quit for private practice?

If you don’t want to pay the fees, quit the profession of law! No one is forcing you to stay in the profession of law.

If you’re not happy with the principle, suck it up

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Did you lose your ability to read when you quit for private practice?

If you don’t want to pay the fees, quit the profession of law! No one is forcing you to stay in the profession of law.

If you’re not happy with the principle, suck it up

Lmao. My point about firing kumgong external counsel who give this kind of kumgong advice still stands.

I might put it diplomatically: Panel firm's lawyers lack ability to think laterally and deliver commercial solutions. Would not recommend to re-empanel.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

You are the daft one. We know all these. You think people haven't tried to apply for waiver over the years? Read what the definition of "profession of law" is in the SAL Rules. It includes inhouse counsel.

We are taking issue with the principle of forcing inhouse counsel to remain as SAL members and/or charging them SAL fees, when most inhousers have absolutely nothing to do with SAL or its services. Not even the most tenuous use of their services.

If my external counsel gave me this kind of kum gong advice, I would fire the firm straight away.

Just because you don't attend SAL events doesn't mean you don't benefit from SAL's functions. Part of SAL's remit is to develop the legal industry, of which in-house counsel are a part. If you don't want to pay membership fees, then don't be part of the legal industry.

It's like saying you don't want to pay tax because you don't use public hospitals or don't qualify to buy HDB. Sorry, it does not work that way.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Just because you don't attend SAL events doesn't mean you don't benefit from SAL's functions. Part of SAL's remit is to develop the legal industry, of which in-house counsel are a part. If you don't want to pay membership fees, then don't be part of the legal industry.

It's like saying you don't want to pay tax because you don't use public hospitals or don't qualify to buy HDB. Sorry, it does not work that way.

That's pitching SAL's contributions to the broader industry way too generously.

We can see that SAL's efforts are 99% focused on the private practice side of the legal industry. Most in the inhouse community will see it that way.

SAL can't pick and choose its definition of legal industry. A broad definition when it comes to collecting membership fees, and a narrow focus when it comes to its actual activities "in support" of the industry.

This is a fairly reasoned point you raised, unlike the rubbish responses in the above posts, but I'm not convinced.

If they are indeed doing things to benefit the inhouse community or which they think they are, then they have failed utterly in properly communicating this. As it is, the SCCA does far more than them in every respect of things that actually matter to our work.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

SAL can't pick and choose its definition of legal industry. A broad definition when it comes to collecting membership fees, and a narrow focus when it comes to its actual activities "in support" of the industry.

err yes it can lmao, in the statute

talk about things as they are and not what you wish they were, my client wish he win all his claims without providing any evidence or paying my fees

knn lawyer already but still doing the layman "how come they can do that?!"

There’s a reason why OP left private practice instead of making partner

laugh die me at the state of in house counsels nowadays

What happens if the in-house counsel doesn’t retain SAL membership?

Cannot go back private practice?

Like, why didn’t everyone just cancel their membership??

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What happens if the in-house counsel doesn’t retain SAL membership?

Cannot go back private practice?

Like, why didn’t everyone just cancel their membership??

Read the statute and subsidiary legislation. There is no mechanism to cancel your membership. You are a member and have to pay dues as long as you remain employed within legal profession.

Just pay up and let's get this forum back on track.

What's the pay scale for mid tier law firm junior partners like in SLB, CNP, RHT?

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