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Can I ask - are white horse interns common?

Do these white horse interns actually get the TC and retained, or do they usually scoot off after the internship? That is to say, they will TC elsewhere?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Drawback to this is you need to do the 1 year GDL/prep for SQE course and then the actual 1 year of the SQE, plus an extra 2 years to qualify as a UK NQ - so total 4 years

Within the same time, Singaporean lawyers can reach 2-3 PQE (SG scale) which is higher than NQ (UK scale) without needing to do law school all over again

I think it'd only make sense for overseas grads. For them the E&W process is 3 years (no need GDL, so SQE + 2 yr TC) and SG process is ~2.5 years (RLT + Parts A & B + 1 yr TC).

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I think it'd only make sense for overseas grads. For them the E&W process is 3 years (no need GDL, so SQE + 2 yr TC) and SG process is ~2.5 years (RLT + Parts A & B + 1 yr TC).

This should be the same for A&O, Sidley and Latham & Watkins

Think Simmons (maybe NRF) does Singapore Bar first then SQE after

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Drawback to this is you need to do the 1 year GDL/prep for SQE course and then the actual 1 year of the SQE, plus an extra 2 years to qualify as a UK NQ - so total 4 years

Within the same time, Singaporean lawyers can reach 2-3 PQE (SG scale) which is higher than NQ (UK scale) without needing to do law school all over again

This is for HSF btw

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask - are white horse interns common?

Do these white horse interns actually get the TC and retained, or do they usually scoot off after the internship? That is to say, they will TC elsewhere?

One of the smaller firms I interned at had this white horse. Man wasn’t give much work and spoke as though he was an equity partner of the firm, constantly joking how he wants to give the support staff a hard time whenever they made mistakes. He was extremely obnoxious, self-centred (sharing his personal life when nobody asked) and always declaring how he turned down TC offers from larger firms (both big four and international) to TC at said firm. Deep down, most of us know he was likely rejected from those firms and is only doing his TC here because he has no other options.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Can I ask - are white horse interns common?

Do these white horse interns actually get the TC and retained, or do they usually scoot off after the internship? That is to say, they will TC elsewhere?

Yes and they get retained

Originally Posted by Unregistered

One of the smaller firms I interned at had this white horse. Man wasn’t give much work and spoke as though he was an equity partner of the firm, constantly joking how he wants to give the support staff a hard time whenever they made mistakes. He was extremely obnoxious, self-centred (sharing his personal life when nobody asked) and always declaring how he turned down TC offers from larger firms (both big four and international) to TC at said firm. Deep down, most of us know he was likely rejected from those firms and is only doing his TC here because he has no other options.

Be smart and try your very Best to be his lackey. He craves for attention and recognition. Give him that. In return, he will give you his connections.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

One of the smaller firms I interned at had this white horse. Man wasn’t give much work and spoke as though he was an equity partner of the firm, constantly joking how he wants to give the support staff a hard time whenever they made mistakes. He was extremely obnoxious, self-centred (sharing his personal life when nobody asked) and always declaring how he turned down TC offers from larger firms (both big four and international) to TC at said firm. Deep down, most of us know he was likely rejected from those firms and is only doing his TC here because he has no other options.

Maybe said white horse's daddy is paying for your salary? No white horse, no billables, no need for pleb assocs to till the land anymore.

Can anyone share the payscales for bigger mid-sized firms? e.g. SLB, Oon, WKW, TSMP etc?

Out of curiosity, people who are doing their Part B from 2024 onwards will be admitted as "Lawyer (Non-Practitioner)" right?

When will this take place?

If Part B exams are done Nov 2024, and results are known by March 2025

When will they apply/be admitted to be a "Lawyer (Non-Practitioner)"?

(Also, does that mean there is no separate admission as "Lawyer (Practitioner)", but instead you just become a practitioner when you apply for/obtain your Practicing Certificate?


I know the soon-out-of-date admission regime is for people to do their Part B say in Nov 2023, know the results by March 2024, then apply after that,

and be admitted as "Advocate & Solicitor" by August 2023?