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Old 01-12-2022, 04:03 PM
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Most larger mid-tiers are actually paying at least 7-7.2k for NQs or "1PQEs" (from Jan).

So one would think their 3PQE pay is going to be higher than that.
Yes with the adjustments earlier this year, think 1PQE for mid-big firms are around the 7k mark. Shook Lin, WKW, TSMP, TKQP etc.. B4 is only a few hundred more to my knowledge. Can anyone corroborate?

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OP here. Which teams / practices should I fervently avoid.
Sorry to jump in, but any legal recruiter firms i should avoid or start engaging with?

What about Aslant and their very impressive looking team? All very young but powerful

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It really baffles me how bad the churn is for certain "big 5" firms. Know someone whose replacement quit less than two months into the job.

That model might have been sustainable pre-covid but given the shortage of quality junior assocs now, you'd think they'd have wisened up and started treating people better.

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Sorry to jump in, but any legal recruiter firms i should avoid or start engaging with?

What about Aslant and their very impressive looking team? All very young but powerful
You've tried this sneaky astroturfing before already la. No one cares.


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It really baffles me how bad the churn is for certain "big 5" firms. Know someone whose replacement quit less than two months into the job.

That model might have been sustainable pre-covid but given the shortage of quality junior assocs now, you'd think they'd have wisened up and started treating people better.
Local law firms are crap.
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It really baffles me how bad the churn is for certain "big 5" firms. Know someone whose replacement quit less than two months into the job.

That model might have been sustainable pre-covid but given the shortage of quality junior assocs now, you'd think they'd have wisened up and started treating people better.
Sadly things are not going to change for real until the ready supply of willing associates dries up. Say what you will, the "big 5" branding still has some prestige amongst the target audience of young and impressionable law students/trainees/associates.
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Salary and culture is one thing, but the most important in my book is standards and commitment to development of the younger lawyers. You see this in firms like Wong P, but not so much some of the other big 4s and certainly not DRD.
" commitment to development of the younger lawyers. You see this in firms like Wong P"

are you joking or what?
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Any news on Public Defender Office?


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Heard that WongP Litigation also gave out TCs to second lowers.

How the mighty have fallen, maybe should just have a Big 3, not Big 4, and certainly not Big 5.
“Big 5” does not exist as a concept let alone in reality
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“Big 5” does not exist as a concept let alone in reality
Regina George said it best. Stop trying to make Big 5 happen. It's NOT going to happen.


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