Lawyer Salary - Page 1747 - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Lawyer Salary

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #17461 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2022, 03:55 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Unhappy lawyers: what is stopping you from changing careers?

I'm in a similar position myself - I'm a lawyer and I want to change careers but I'm not sure what I want to do.

Can I ask what the reasons are for people wanting to leave but not choosing to?
Golden handcuffs. End of the day you get paid well for pushing paper.

Reply With Quote
  #17462 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2022, 04:00 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
What are professional responses to a partner yelling at you in person?

Or tips to fake confidence when getting yelled at? I have a partner that nothing I do is right.

She called and yelled at me yesterday and I had to hang up the phone on her because I was going to start crying.

I’m just nervous how to act in person now.

He undermines everything I do/say and as a new lawyer I don’t have a lot of confidence on what to say back to her .

What are some good responses that are still professional to say to an angry partner ?

I don’t have experience getting yelled at by people in law school. This is my first job since graduation.

Also is it normal to get yelled at? If so, then I may not switch to another firm. I will just quit practice for good.
It's not normal. You are just unlucky to have a toxic boss. Change firms and this time do your due diligence on how the firm culture/your boss is like before joining.

(And don't take the responses on this forum as representative because usually only unhappy people will come onto this forum to vent. People who are happy with their bosses won't bother to post about it.)

Reply With Quote
  #17463 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2022, 04:50 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
It's not normal. You are just unlucky to have a toxic boss. Change firms and this time do your due diligence on how the firm culture/your boss is like before joining.

(And don't take the responses on this forum as representative because usually only unhappy people will come onto this forum to vent. People who are happy with their bosses won't bother to post about it.)
Which firm is this? Big4 and certain small law firms are notorious for having toxic partners.

Reply With Quote
  #17464 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2022, 06:22 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
It's not normal. You are just unlucky to have a toxic boss. Change firms and this time do your due diligence on how the firm culture/your boss is like before joining.

(And don't take the responses on this forum as representative because usually only unhappy people will come onto this forum to vent. People who are happy with their bosses won't bother to post about it.)

Oh well, even change firm may also be like that. It is quite common to have bosses who shout and become monsters toward their staff. Even as SA level to Juniors, bullying is quite common especially in Big 4. Haven’t we heard what Lawsoc President had wanted to change the culture?

Plus, it is quite common for a 3-5 pqe to have changed 3 firms already.


In any case, I would just leave practice. There are better ways to make money without getting my mental health suffered.
Reply With Quote
  #17465 (permalink)  
Old 11-08-2022, 09:21 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Even partners taiji

Presentations speech notes law society investigations interviews charity work grounds of decisions etc

I am shocked at the passing off
Mmmm I agree.

How am I supposed to draft interview notes for my partner on tips for young lawyers when I have not been called to the Bar?
Reply With Quote
  #17466 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2022, 06:53 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Which firm is this? Big4 and certain small law firms are notorious for having toxic partners.
Is there a list to find out which firms / dept have toxic culture?
Reply With Quote

  #17467 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2022, 09:20 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Is there a list to find out which firms / dept have toxic culture?
You create one and then be sued for defamation la
Reply With Quote
  #17469 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2022, 12:34 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default Fish bowl?

Instead of posting here on this forum without proper threads/replies/likes etc. Why don’t we all just use the fish bowl app? US/London lawyers use it exactly like what we are doing here but better interface, etc. There is a singapore law thread but none of us uses it!
Reply With Quote
  #17470 (permalink)  
Old 12-08-2022, 12:44 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Many aspiring law undergraduates or Part A/B candidates always think that academics is very important in practice but in reality, it plays a secondary role.

There are two things you need to have for practice:

1. Client Management - You have to manage clients' expectations, learn to be firm with clients (setting boundaries) and always remember, collect fees beforehand. Many clients will request you to do many but "act blur" when its payment time. Admittedly, easier said than done and even some partners still fail at it, given that Singaporeans are the non-confrontational type.


2. Thick Skin - Especially for litigation. Prepare to get scolded by the judiciary if you can't meet timelines (sometimes at no fault of your own). Also, by demanding clients who think they own you just because they paid a paltry deposit.


If you can master these two things, you can survive in practice. If not, good luck.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
advocate, law, lawyer, legal, solicitor

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
From Lawyer Insider: Life is Glamorous but Unsatisfying Salary.sg Income and Jobs 31 15-01-2018 12:40 PM

» 30 Recent Threads
GovTech ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
8,339 Replies, 3,522,530 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
21,721 Replies, 6,918,323 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
12,928 Replies, 8,593,745 Views
Red Alpha
1 Replies, 73 Views
DSTA (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,917 Replies, 1,810,417 Views
Work culture in IHiS ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
888 Replies, 730,107 Views
Hospital (Private or Public)... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,487 Replies, 786,830 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
16,939 Replies, 14,538,816 Views
ST Electronics ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
4,265 Replies, 2,057,493 Views
Roles in accenture singapore ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
8,959 Replies, 3,126,287 Views
Civil Service Performance Bonus ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,921 Replies, 5,695,727 Views
MAS for Mid Career Professionals ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
2,701 Replies, 1,469,847 Views
How is life as a doctor in... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
10,898 Replies, 4,452,226 Views
OKX SuperNova Graduate Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
354 Replies, 199,920 Views
IMDA (under MCI) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,707 Replies, 1,029,016 Views
ITE (lecturer) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
315 Replies, 480,779 Views
Compilation of MAs/Analysts Gross... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,294 Replies, 837,636 Views
Rakuten Software Engineer (Fresh... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
86 Replies, 21,869 Views
LTA (Land Transport Authority) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,288 Replies, 745,016 Views
Maritime and Port Authority of... ( 1 2 3)
25 Replies, 35,572 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
7,286 Replies, 4,635,782 Views
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
22,385 Replies, 12,440,961 Views
If you can't find a company here... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
159 Replies, 73,465 Views
atet security pte ltd
1 Replies, 996 Views
Singapore Airlines ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
31 Replies, 30,280 Views
NUS (National University of... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
369 Replies, 426,210 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,560 Replies, 5,617,046 Views
HTX (Home Team Science and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,227 Replies, 761,381 Views
Achievers Dream Learning Centre,... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
32 Replies, 4,509 Views
NCS (SingTel subsidiary) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,688 Replies, 1,486,925 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 08:41 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2