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Old 22-06-2022, 12:24 PM
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Ironic that SG lawyers like to act like the bourgeoisie just because they can read, write and speak English well but are getting bossed around by high net-worth PRC clients who can't even speak an ick of English

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Ironic that SG lawyers like to act like the bourgeoisie just because they can read, write and speak English well but are getting bossed around by high net-worth PRC clients who can't even speak an ick of English
Ok whos gonna get retrenched this round?

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Old 22-06-2022, 02:09 PM
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I'm thinking about moving from a small firm to a large firm.

With the current lack of mid-category lawyers in this specialisation, i'll probably get an offer.

The problem is that i really love my current job. Pay/hours/people are all great. The fact is that moving to a large firm will not increase my compensation by much, if at all.

The only reason i'm thinking about moving is to be able to handle higher quality, higher quantum work. I'm talking about the kind of cases which would change the law as we know it -rather than just run of the mill high court cases, which i already handle on a daily basis.

I'm just wondering - is it worth it?

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I'm thinking about moving from a small firm to a large firm.

With the current lack of mid-category lawyers in this specialisation, i'll probably get an offer.

The problem is that i really love my current job. Pay/hours/people are all great. The fact is that moving to a large firm will not increase my compensation by much, if at all.

The only reason i'm thinking about moving is to be able to handle higher quality, higher quantum work. I'm talking about the kind of cases which would change the law as we know it -rather than just run of the mill high court cases, which i already handle on a daily basis.

I'm just wondering - is it worth it?
Cases that "change the law as we know it" are not that uncommon. Anything that goes to the SGCA and doesn't get thrown out immediately as garbage has a chance of "changing the law as we know it". I don't think you need to go to a "big" firm to get that exposure. And even if you do, you need to land in the right team because "big" firms means a lot of wrong teams to end up in. So if you're not getting a pay bump I'd say reconsider.
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Is it normal to screw up at work? I made some bad mistakes and my senior ended up having to redo everything, and told me off very badly.

I screw up all the time, does this mean law is not for me or should I grind it out till I hopefully one day get better? Why does it seem so easy for some people?

I am not a stellar performer at all, not sure if I should quit.
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It was easier during my training as everyone was in the office. The partners would go through everything with me and I learned well. But now in my office there is zero face to face interactions between me and my new team. I screwed up badly and it may affect my performance.

What should I do? Should I quit and find something else to do or continue? Please help.
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Is it normal to screw up at work? I made some bad mistakes and my senior ended up having to redo everything, and told me off very badly.

I screw up all the time, does this mean law is not for me or should I grind it out till I hopefully one day get better? Why does it seem so easy for some people?

I am not a stellar performer at all, not sure if I should quit.
Getting scolded for a mistake is very common in law.. for some reason seniors don't like to teach properly but then use you as an outlet to vent their own stress when something goes wrong. Don't worry.

Law is a marathon not a sprint, you just need to grind enough exp and you will get it eventually, you don't need to be a "stellar" performer to last in law, you need to have a relatively thick skin, and to shake it off when ppl scold you. Take it as their way of teaching.
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Old 22-06-2022, 06:16 PM
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Getting scolded for a mistake is very common in law.. for some reason seniors don't like to teach properly but then use you as an outlet to vent their own stress when something goes wrong. Don't worry.

Law is a marathon not a sprint, you just need to grind enough exp and you will get it eventually, you don't need to be a "stellar" performer to last in law, you need to have a relatively thick skin, and to shake it off when ppl scold you. Take it as their way of teaching.
Yup, don't be disheartened if you aren't doing well in your early years in practice. Law is notorious for having a steep learning curve for beginners, doesn't help when many of the boomers or Gen X lawyers way of "teaching" is just to vent their temper at you without pointing or even hinting at what is wrong with your work.

And a thick skin is very crucial especially in litigation. You aren't going to just be scolded by your seniors, but also by the judiciary and your learned friends at times. I remembered when I started practising, there was this senior partner who will instruct me to attend PTCs/CCs where there will be an upcoming dressing-down by the judges due to non-compliance of directions. And the non-compliance stems from the fact that the partner sat on the file after collecting the deposit and nothing was done on his part.
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Yup, don't be disheartened if you aren't doing well in your early years in practice. Law is notorious for having a steep learning curve for beginners, doesn't help when many of the boomers or Gen X lawyers way of "teaching" is just to vent their temper at you without pointing or even hinting at what is wrong with your work.

And a thick skin is very crucial especially in litigation. You aren't going to just be scolded by your seniors, but also by the judiciary and your learned friends at times. I remembered when I started practising, there was this senior partner who will instruct me to attend PTCs/CCs where there will be an upcoming dressing-down by the judges due to non-compliance of directions. And the non-compliance stems from the fact that the partner sat on the file after collecting the deposit and nothing was done on his part.
Lol scold the ARs la
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Old 22-06-2022, 07:46 PM
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Anyone know the NQ for pinsent masons mpillay? Heard it's more integrated than other JLVs - last I saw they posted on mycareersfuture offering 14k for 3PQE.
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