Lawyer Salary - Page 1651 - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Lawyer Salary

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #16501 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 12:05 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Choo is smart. Why kill off the 6 by himself? The court of public opinion will kill them off later. Plus, he gets to look like a kind and loving papa.
Names are redacted. They will go on to be employed like nothing happened and proceed to continue this behaviour in practice.

Reply With Quote
  #16502 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 12:06 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Names are redacted. They will go on to be employed like nothing happened and proceed to continue this behaviour in practice.
Some people already know who they are.
SIC reveal.

Reply With Quote
  #16503 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 12:11 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Some people already know who they are.
SIC reveal.
How to find the SIC reveal?



Primary School English Grammar and Vocabulary Drills
Primary School English Grammar and Vocabulary Drills


SG Bus Timing App
SG Bus Timing App - the best bus app - available on iOS and Android


Bursa Stocks Android App - check share prices
Bursa Stocks [Android] App - check latest share prices on the go


SGX Stocks Android App - check share prices
SGX Stocks [Android] App - check latest share prices on the go


SGX Stocks for iPad - check latest Singapore share prices
SGX Stocks [iPad] app
| SGX Stocks [iPhone] app
Reply With Quote
  #16504 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 12:12 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Question

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Some people already know who they are.
SIC reveal.
Can trace their AAS numbers

From the written judgment
Lalita Chelliah for applicants in AAS 14, 22, 23, 29 and 30 of 2022;
Cheryl Ng for applicant in AAS 27 of 2022.

Better be careful. If they can cheat once, they can cheat twice, thrice. It gets worse when they have their own firms or join politics. Humans, in general, do no change easily.
Reply With Quote
  #16505 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 09:11 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I really don't see why we are being so lenient to these 6 (or 11) when it has been repeated ad nauseum that integrity is not to be compromised in this profession.

Just last week, a very respected family law senior practitioner was suspended for 3 years by the Court of 3 Judges for inter alia being dishonest to his client and the court in the conduct of a case. The court also found that the lawyer did not benefit from his dishonesty, nor did the dishonesty ultimately caused the client harm.

While involving different circumstances and fora, the juxtaposition of outcomes could not have been more stark.

If, as has repeatedly been emphasized, misconduct involving dishonesty will often lead to an order for striking of, the outcome in this cheating saga is seriously hard to rationalize.


Primary School English Grammar and Vocabulary Drills
Primary School English Grammar and Vocabulary Drills


SG Bus Timing App
SG Bus Timing App - the best bus app - available on iOS and Android


Bursa Stocks Android App - check share prices
Bursa Stocks [Android] App - check latest share prices on the go


SGX Stocks Android App - check share prices
SGX Stocks [Android] App - check latest share prices on the go


SGX Stocks for iPad - check latest Singapore share prices
SGX Stocks [iPad] app
| SGX Stocks [iPhone] app
Reply With Quote
  #16506 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 10:13 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I really don't see why we are being so lenient to these 6 (or 11) when it has been repeated ad nauseum that integrity is not to be compromised in this profession.

Just last week, a very respected family law senior practitioner was suspended for 3 years by the Court of 3 Judges for inter alia being dishonest to his client and the court in the conduct of a case. The court also found that the lawyer did not benefit from his dishonesty, nor did the dishonesty ultimately caused the client harm.

While involving different circumstances and fora, the juxtaposition of outcomes could not have been more stark.

If, as has repeatedly been emphasized, misconduct involving dishonesty will often lead to an order for striking of, the outcome in this cheating saga is seriously hard to rationalize.
These students also had the academic credentials to sign with the big firms. It really makes you wonder why they cheated. Hope AGC publishes their names for the world to see. They owe it to the public.
Reply With Quote

  #16507 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 10:27 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I really don't see why we are being so lenient to these 6 (or 11) when it has been repeated ad nauseum that integrity is not to be compromised in this profession.

Just last week, a very respected family law senior practitioner was suspended for 3 years by the Court of 3 Judges for inter alia being dishonest to his client and the court in the conduct of a case. The court also found that the lawyer did not benefit from his dishonesty, nor did the dishonesty ultimately caused the client harm.

While involving different circumstances and fora, the juxtaposition of outcomes could not have been more stark.

If, as has repeatedly been emphasized, misconduct involving dishonesty will often lead to an order for striking of, the outcome in this cheating saga is seriously hard to rationalize.
These trainees were effectively suspended for 6 months to a year due to their cheating. I think that is a proportionate penalty considering that (a) they were trainee lawyers and were not yet subject to the professional conduct rules; (b) their dishonesty was not directed at the courts or any client; and (c) they are relatively young and immature.

In contrast, the senior family lawyer had 20+ years of experience, should know better, his misconduct involved deceiving both his client and the courts, and when caught he fought the dishonesty charges for 7 years instead of coming clean quickly.

All cases of dishonesty ought to be punished, but it is right that there should be distinctions depending on the seriousness of the conduct and the circumstances also.
Reply With Quote
  #16508 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 11:04 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
These trainees were effectively suspended for 6 months to a year due to their cheating. I think that is a proportionate penalty considering that (a) they were trainee lawyers and were not yet subject to the professional conduct rules; (b) their dishonesty was not directed at the courts or any client; and (c) they are relatively young and immature.

In contrast, the senior family lawyer had 20+ years of experience, should know better, his misconduct involved deceiving both his client and the courts, and when caught he fought the dishonesty charges for 7 years instead of coming clean quickly.

All cases of dishonesty ought to be punished, but it is right that there should be distinctions depending on the seriousness of the conduct and the circumstances also.
Dishonesty is dishonesty. Why must be directed at anyone. It’s an integrity issue, not competency issue. Are u also one of them ah
Reply With Quote
  #16509 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 02:35 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Where is Mr "If I am the King of Singapore"? No one told him about the students cheating? Where is the LinkedIn post?
Reply With Quote
  #16510 (permalink)  
Old 20-04-2022, 04:50 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
saw on reddit that the 6 have been identified through their AAS numbers?

"If you have access to an e-litigation account, you can look up the brief details of the matter with the AAS reference."

how does the sealing order normally work?

i suppose minimally you wont be able to actually obtain inspection of any cause paper. but if you can still use the number to look up actual party names (as opposed to CTA or other code names), it seems to defeat the purpose of Choo J's order.

or is it the case that the actual names are supposed to be substituted with code names, but elit didnt have time to implement the order of court yet?
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
advocate, law, lawyer, legal, solicitor

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
From Lawyer Insider: Life is Glamorous but Unsatisfying Salary.sg Income and Jobs 31 15-01-2018 12:40 PM

» 30 Recent Threads
GovTech ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
8,275 Replies, 3,502,097 Views
OKX SuperNova Graduate Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
352 Replies, 198,638 Views
Civil Service Performance Bonus ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,919 Replies, 5,686,435 Views
CSA (Cyber Security Agency) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,148 Replies, 758,434 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
21,678 Replies, 6,895,506 Views
Roles in accenture singapore ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
8,945 Replies, 3,116,110 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
16,934 Replies, 14,518,599 Views
DSTA (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,912 Replies, 1,804,340 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
12,920 Replies, 8,572,415 Views
ST Electronics ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
4,264 Replies, 2,051,202 Views
Salaries in Seatrium
0 Replies, 63 Views
NCS (SingTel subsidiary) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,687 Replies, 1,482,926 Views
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
22,379 Replies, 12,415,015 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
7,280 Replies, 4,624,575 Views
GovTech / CSA / IMDA ( 1 2)
13 Replies, 18,253 Views
ITE Polytechnic Scheme ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
407 Replies, 505,362 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,559 Replies, 5,605,390 Views
LTA (Land Transport Authority) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,287 Replies, 740,595 Views
Constituency Manager (People... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,011 Replies, 931,209 Views
ITE (lecturer) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
313 Replies, 479,422 Views
Hospital (Private or Public)... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,480 Replies, 781,017 Views
AIC Agency of Integrated Care Jobs? ( 1 2 3)
24 Replies, 22,623 Views
Achievers Dream Learning Centre,... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
30 Replies, 4,146 Views
How is life as a doctor in... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
10,884 Replies, 4,436,533 Views
HTX (Home Team Science and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,226 Replies, 755,979 Views
DSO (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
83 Replies, 98,632 Views
UOB Management Associate Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,548 Replies, 973,860 Views
IMDA (under MCI) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,702 Replies, 1,025,427 Views
Nparks ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
45 Replies, 48,761 Views
Work culture in IHiS ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
885 Replies, 727,231 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 02:22 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2025, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2