Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What are the salary bands for Shook Lin?

Have it on good authority that they raised their starting pay as well. Not the same as b4 but at least 7k.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So the consensus here is: if you're in a small or mid firm and can't make it to (i) international firms, (ii) Big 4 (which is a stepping stone to the internationals), or (iii) (minimally) Rodyk, and don't manage to lateral to these aforementioned firms within your first 2 to 3 years of practice, then you're better off quitting law entirely?

There are plenty of people with fulfilling and lucrative careers in small and medium sized firms. There are also various examples of people from top international law firms lateralling to local firms (including small/medium firms) because it's easier to make partner and build your own practice there.

So please don't take career advice from a bunch of anonymous forumers who might be the same few individuals posting the same skewed perspective repeatedly.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

So the consensus here is: if you're in a small or mid firm and can't make it to (i) international firms, (ii) Big 4 (which is a stepping stone to the internationals), or (iii) (minimally) Rodyk, and don't manage to lateral to these aforementioned firms within your first 2 to 3 years of practice, then you're better off quitting law entirely?

What a lousy amalgamation of clearly very different standards. Don’t think we didn’t notice.

Two days ago, I attended an event by BoardAgender, an initiative supported by the Singapore Council of Women’s Organisations (SCWO). The event seeks to promote the appointment of more women to boards and had a dialogue on having more women on boards.

I am surprised to see Suet Fen there as I thought she would be busy with the ongoing family saga, but what happened during the event shocked many of us, and I can’t help but to disgusted that a woman of her stature resorted to such actions.

Suet Fern stood up during the dialogue, and launched into a diatribe about her fight with Lee Hsien Loong. Amongst other things, she accused LHL of having lied under oath and that she was unfairly harassed by Ministry of Law over her firm’s application to tie up with Morgan Bockius Lewis. She claims that MinLaw gave her much problems about an inaccurate statement, accused her of lying under oath (over a minor inaccuracy) and that it took several months before it was sorted out.

Many of the participants were very uncomfortable with Suet Fern’s attempt to drag them into the dispute and found it distasteful. One of them told her that he did not think what she was doing was good for either herself or Singapore.

The organisers were very embarrassed.

While I have not met Suet Fern personally, I do know her by reputation. Her actions at the dialogue, and lack of concern for the impact it may have on the reputation of BoardAgender and SCWO, is not out of character for her. She is known to use her clout as being the sister-in-law of the Prime Minister to get her way. In fact, many in the legal fraternity whisper that both she and her firm would not be what it is today without her abusing connections.

When Stamford Law merged with Morgan Lewis, Suet Fern was the only person that got the better deal. Many of her junior partners (it takes around 8 years to become a junior partner) were demoted to associates. Imagine working 8 years to be promoted to a manager and when your firm has a merger, you got demoted. Many aspiring junior partners left the firm. And there is also the rumours of malpractice over an Osim case which was hushed up due to her connections.

In short, Suet Fern has no shame in using her connections when it benefits her. And when the benefits stop, she literally bites the hand that feeds her. This is further proof of the type of woman Suet Fern is …. self-serving!

Josh

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Pacific Prime Insurance Brokers Singapore Pte. Ltd. & Anor V Lee Suet Fern & 3 Ors
HC/S 825/2021
Hearing March 2022

Nature of Case : Law of Confidence
Venue : Supreme Court
Judge/judicial Officer : Justice Choo Han Teck


=== > Noob Question Here , My Learnedfriend Lawyers. Is It The Same Lee Suet Fern as Law Society of Singapore V Lee Suet Fern (Alias Lim Suet Fern) [2020] Sghc 255, From Morgan Lewis Stamford??

If Is Same..
=== > So Many Breach of Confidence Cases From Stamford Law? Leaking Data to Lover by This Firm's Employee. Now This Hooha Wif Pacific Prime Insurance Brokers

Is Clients' Data Safe With This Law Firm or Not ??

Originally Posted by Unregistered

There are also various examples of people from top international law firms lateralling to local firms (including small/medium firms) because it's easier to make partner and build your own practice there.

Oh really? Can share some profiles? Don’t suppose you mean those arbitrators who can obviously command their own business.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh really? Can share some profiles? Don’t suppose you mean those arbitrators who can obviously command their own business.

That statement will not apply to corporate law, only litigation or arbitration. There are no boutique / mid-size / small-size firms in the SG market which do tier 1 or even tier 2 corporate work. Only the big firms are able to support the scale, intensity and full suite of services which big corporate clients require for transactional matters.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

What a lousy amalgamation of clearly very different standards. Don’t think we didn’t notice.

HAHHAA trying to sneak Rodyk into the mix.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

HAHHAA trying to sneak Rodyk into the mix.

Waste of time third rate firm trying to masquerade as 'international'.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh really? Can share some profiles? Don’t suppose you mean those arbitrators who can obviously command their own business.

Don't be lazy. Just keep a breast on linkedin - the oon bazul recent hires are a prime example.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

That statement will not apply to corporate law, only litigation or arbitration. There are no boutique / mid-size / small-size firms in the SG market which do tier 1 or even tier 2 corporate work. Only the big firms are able to support the scale, intensity and full suite of services which big corporate clients require for transactional matters.

It's a misconception that you need to service the big global MNCs and do "Tier 1" or "Tier 2" work to make money. Plenty of Asian towkays and family businesses have money to spend and need legal services too.

There are plenty of mid-level corporate assocs who left Big 4 firms to start or join boutique firms and are raking in big bucks. You won't find them ranked in Chambers or Legal500 but they are quietly making more money than their peers in big international firms because they don't have a big firm's expensive overheads and keep most of what they bring in. The average mid-level associate bills $75k a month (assuming $500 hourly rate) but is paid a tiny fraction of that - imagine keeping most of that for yourself.