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There is no guarantee that any particular field of study will prepare you for the unknown and uncertain future. The best advice is to do ANYTHING and do it well, and when the time comes be prepared to learn and then do something else. Just be adaptable. A basic degree does not determine your entire future. Whatever you learn today, you might well have to un-learn tomorrow anyway.

So much has been said about how lawyers will soon be replaced by AI and the implicit assumption many seem to make is that a basic computing degree will somehow better equip you for this technologically advanced society we will soon live in. But there is no guarantee that this prediction will turn out to be true - Both might be equally useless (or less useful) in ten to twenty years time.

People seem to take for granted that learning programming is somehow a "safe" bet but there is no guarantee that the programming languages taught in universities today will be the same languages used in computer programs of the future. Programming languages can and do fall out of use as well.

Studies are also now being conducted to allow people to code in plain natural language that anyone who can read English will be able to understand. Think about it, requiring people to learn completely new technical languages is itself inefficient and technology loathes inefficiency! AI might also allow computers to code themselves with minimal instruction from a human being so we might not need that many programmers after all.

The key to survival is continuous learning. It's not just a government slogan, it's about survival. Study whatever you want, and then be prepared to study again and again. Hope this makes sense.
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There is no guarantee that any particular field of study will prepare you for the unknown and uncertain future. The best advice is to do ANYTHING and do it well, and when the time comes be prepared to learn and then do something else. Just be adaptable. A basic degree does not determine your entire future. Whatever you learn today, you might well have to un-learn tomorrow anyway.

So much has been said about how lawyers will soon be replaced by AI and the implicit assumption many seem to make is that a basic computing degree will somehow better equip you for this technologically advanced society we will soon live in. But there is no guarantee that this prediction will turn out to be true - Both might be equally useless (or less useful) in ten to twenty years time.

People seem to take for granted that learning programming is somehow a "safe" bet but there is no guarantee that the programming languages taught in universities today will be the same languages used in computer programs of the future. Programming languages can and do fall out of use as well.

Studies are also now being conducted to allow people to code in plain natural language that anyone who can read English will be able to understand. Think about it, requiring people to learn completely new technical languages is itself inefficient and technology loathes inefficiency! AI might also allow computers to code themselves with minimal instruction from a human being so we might not need that many programmers after all.

The key to survival is continuous learning. It's not just a government slogan, it's about survival. Study whatever you want, and then be prepared to study again and again. Hope this makes sense.
Nice advice. Ignore that guy ^^

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Quick questions!

(1) How much is the annual increments for big/mid sized law firms?
(2) How many months bonus for the same?
(3) Do associates (or SAs) get paid evenly throughout the firms? (i.e. all 2PQE earns $x for example).

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(1) 800 to 1k, rising to up to 1.5k at SA
(2) 0-4, based on total monthly salary
(3) generally yes at junior ranks, may vary (slightly) at SA level

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Could anyone enlighten me on what is the approximate salary range for 3 year PQE (typically the point at which u become a "Senior" assoc.) at the local mid-tier mid-sized firms (Eg. Lee&Lee, HarryE, Straits etc) doing commercial litigation?
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Could anyone enlighten me on what is the approximate salary range for 3 year PQE (typically the point at which u become a "Senior" assoc.) at the local mid-tier mid-sized firms (Eg. Lee&Lee, HarryE, Straits etc) doing commercial litigation?
Why don't you make it until 3 PQE first then revisit your question? Friendly advice, since by then you will have an idea what the market salaries are like compared with other firms, and if you don't then your question is moot anyway.

If on the other hand you are concerned with how much money you will make in X number of years, it is more productive to compare starting salaries for lawyers with other industries. If it is unacceptable to you now, then it won't be acceptable to you 3 years down the road and you're better off going into better paying areas now, e.g. finance.
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found this list showing some crowd sourced salary data. Maybe can compare lawyer's salary with this. I think lawyer's pay may have dropped recently.
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Why don't you make it until 3 PQE first then revisit your question? Friendly advice, since by then you will have an idea what the market salaries are like compared with other firms, and if you don't then your question is moot anyway.

If on the other hand you are concerned with how much money you will make in X number of years, it is more productive to compare starting salaries for lawyers with other industries. If it is unacceptable to you now, then it won't be acceptable to you 3 years down the road and you're better off going into better paying areas now, e.g. finance.

^ This. So true. Attrition rate is still high imo.
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found this list showing some crowd sourced salary data. Maybe can compare lawyer's salary with this. I think lawyer's pay may have dropped recently.
It has. Significantly.
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Could anyone enlighten me on what is the approximate salary range for 3 year PQE (typically the point at which u become a "Senior" assoc.) at the local mid-tier mid-sized firms (Eg. Lee&Lee, HarryE, Straits etc) doing commercial litigation?
6.5 to 7.2
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Could anyone enlighten me on what is the approximate salary range for 3 year PQE (typically the point at which u become a "Senior" assoc.) at the local mid-tier mid-sized firms (Eg. Lee&Lee, HarryE, Straits etc) doing commercial litigation?
6.5 to 7.2

Cheers mate.

To the rest of the replies asking me to wait until i'm 3 year PQE: Erm yes guys i'm 3-year PQE, which is why i asked this question on salary.sg~
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