Lawyer Salary

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Agree. Probably because Paulin is chio and trusted by MC firms . All salty others want to pull her down

Yeah agree. She placed me into a us firm.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

hey thanks for taking the time to write your reply.

did you do your law deg in SG or abroad? I see on linkedin that most people in bigger firms are from local unis. i would assume hiring from our local uni is because of its promise to quality.

finances aside, i am more worried about getting interviews and scoring higher honours. my friend grad law during the glut period and there were stories of people unable to secure training contracts (or, as a joke, having to pay the firm to get a training contract). is the situation better now?

I did my degree in SG. It depends on what you want, most overseas unis will allow the average SG "good" student to obtain a 2.1 or 1st quite easily, due to the lower bellcurve and grading schemes.

If you intend to practice abroad - I have realised that "lousier" universities in the UK/US still allow people to apply for the Magic Circle UK or White Shoe US firms just because the firms are much larger (and can afford to take more ppl) in their home countries. Most of these firms care more about the degree class than the university you attended.

If you intend to practice in SG - it's the same as above, you should choose a local university since there will be so much less admin and additional qualification requirements (i.e. no need to take part A).

Even at its worst, everyone can find a TC, it's just that alot of ppl are unwilling to TC at a firm they think is beneath them (i.e. small firms or chinatown firms). But from my reckoning, all of my classmates were able to secure TCs relatively easily at mid-size or better firms.

In any case, although you shouldn't stay in small firms too long if you want to earn more money, it's still a relatively okay option, since you can ask for a cut of the fees you bill in a small firm (meaning 15-20k is very achievable in smaller firms), whereas you'll have to slog for years and years to try and make equity partner at a big firm (although the rewards will be much greater if you make it).

In terms of scoring well, and studying, that's really up to your personal capacity and intellect. But tbh, law is more about being hardworking and consistent in studying, so you'll have to ask yourself if you're ready to switch your mindset.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This post above was in response to question about Paulin Tan.

Too many male lawyers seeking job change it appear.

But what's the reward

Originally Posted by Unregistered

But what's the reward

Exactly. Just asking for a friend =)

Originally Posted by Unregistered

In any case, although you shouldn't stay in small firms too long if you want to earn more money, it's still a relatively okay option, since you can ask for a cut of the fees you bill in a small firm (meaning 15-20k is very achievable in smaller firms), whereas you'll have to slog for years and years to try and make equity partner at a big firm (although the rewards will be much greater if you make it).

Excellent response. I would add that despite the ad nauseum hooha about lack of TCs, there is actually no lack of TC and even NQ jobs for lawyers, (because >4PqE attrition is so bloody intense!). When law grads complain they can't find jobs, they mean they can't find jobs in a law firm that they like/think is good or reputable or prestigious enough for them.

Nobody I know who was looking for a TC in year 3 didn't manage to get 1 by year 4, and nobody who wasn't retained didn't manage to get a job in 1 or 2 months time.

I have many friends who started out in small Chinatown or CBD shops eventually going on to good outcomes like better firms, or become VPs or ADs in adjacent industries like banking, insurance, marine, etc.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Exactly. Just asking for a friend =)

The reward is the joy of getting a new job at an intl firm paying more than a sg sweatshop la.

Wash your brain with dettol and start doing proper headhunting instead of pretending to be a candidate and trying to throw shade. You know who you are.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The reward is the joy of getting a new job at an intl firm paying more than a sg sweatshop la.

Wash your brain with dettol and start doing proper headhunting instead of pretending to be a candidate and trying to throw shade. You know who you are.

I will do so. Would still want to know what the “reward” from the recruiter is though!
“You know who you are” ? Hold on, you dont. Haha

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The reward is the joy of getting a new job at an intl firm paying more than a sg sweatshop la.

Wash your brain with dettol and start doing proper headhunting instead of pretending to be a candidate and trying to throw shade. You know who you are.

If u know then name the person la

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I will do so. Would still want to know what the “reward” from the recruiter is though!
“You know who you are” ? Hold on, you dont. Haha

The firm which they place the candidate in pays the recruiter the comm. Think its like 25% annual comp of candidate thereabouts.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

The firm which they place the candidate in pays the recruiter the comm. Think its like 25% annual comp of candidate thereabouts.

More complicated than that. It also depends on the candidate not leaving within a certain period of time, passing probation etc. Can be quite complicated.