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Old 29-07-2021, 08:33 PM
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It should be noted that at the junior level for corp, A&G and WongP corp provide good training which is superior to BMWL. They have an established system for training fresh graduates, although for corp one should always take an opportunity from CC if it arises. For litigation, for training purposes it would highly depend on the team you are assigned to. Davinder Singh chambers under DS himself > random litigator under Big 4/intl firm.
I beg to differ. Bmwl mna training is great.

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I beg to differ. Bmwl mna training is great.
WP only teach you how to torpedo deals by overlawyering - pick A&G instead.

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WP only teach you how to torpedo deals by overlawyering - pick A&G instead.
BMWL better. The partners are very hands on and give alot of guidance and attention even though you are a trainee. And great work culture. Seniors all helpful and zero politics. Thats why most trainees stay there for years till made partner.

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BMWL better. The partners are very hands on and give alot of guidance and attention even though you are a trainee. And great work culture. Seniors all helpful and zero politics. Thats why most trainees stay there for years till made partner.
Op here. I meant bmwl mna. The other departments errr
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Jaded. How many of you feel that Singapore has declined significantly over the last decade? Stagnant pay not keeping up with inflation (except for politicians), rising GST tax and threat of future income taxes raises, rising hdb prices, cecas threatening to take our professional jobs, murderous crazy teens running amok in our midst, and such.

If you ask me ten years ago if I could see Singapore in such a sad state, I would have laughed in your face. Or do we just pop a xanax and see everything through rose-tinted glasses as we were taught in schools to do?

waiting time for BTOs is ridiculous not to mention so difficult to ballot successfully.

even resale HDB prices are becoming out of reach.
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BMWL better. The partners are very hands on and give alot of guidance and attention even though you are a trainee. And great work culture. Seniors all helpful and zero politics. Thats why most trainees stay there for years till made partner.
This person is in the know.
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waiting time for BTOs is ridiculous not to mention so difficult to ballot successfully.

even resale HDB prices are becoming out of reach.
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Yes, but a lot of it is also triggered by the pandemic. It's not just Singapore. The world is in decline.

Housing prices are just the byproduct of scarcity. Happens when we have too many people and too little space.

E.g. Hong Kong, Shenzhen, London, Sydney or Melbourne vs suburbs

The Axeman part though makes me thing we're going to the s hitters. How even did that happen? Poor schoolmate.
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Jaded. How many of you feel that Singapore has declined significantly over the last decade? Stagnant pay not keeping up with inflation (except for politicians), rising GST tax and threat of future income taxes raises, rising hdb prices, cecas threatening to take our professional jobs, murderous crazy teens running amok in our midst, and such.

If you ask me ten years ago if I could see Singapore in such a sad state, I would have laughed in your face. Or do we just pop a xanax and see everything through rose-tinted glasses as we were taught in schools to do?
You could always migrate and let a ceca take your place. Or you could vote for change. Otherwise shut up and get back to the grind!
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Seeing how the average Singaporean citizen doesn't benefit from CECA, I dare say that the ceca lawyers are better than Singaporean lawyers.

Harvard/Yale JDs/Oxbridge > India law schools >>> NUS/SMU LLB

Ironically the industry that needs replacement by CECA professionals the most given the aforementioned example is the one currently still protected from the ceca onslaught affecting other industries.
I'm somewhat persuaded by your argument even if its said in jest, the government negotiators really got blindsided by their Indian counterparts. They got the professional jobs here and we get, nada. For all you know CECA may be expanded to include lawyers too if our population keeps decreasing.
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I'm somewhat persuaded by your argument even if its said in jest, the government negotiators really got blindsided by their Indian counterparts. They got the professional jobs here and we get, nada. For all you know CECA may be expanded to include lawyers too if our population keeps decreasing.
://.singaporelawwatch.sg/Headlines/legal-service-may-be-restructured-for-greater-specialisation

Shan seems to suggest there's a shortage of lawyers. 6000 for a resident pop of 6million (actually about 5.6m), 0.1%. I guess that's quite underlawyered compared to other advanced economies

Then how come our pay so shi tty and grads cannot find TCs? Will law become like medicine where residents can't get jobs as consultants but they keep importing indian and FT doctors year after year?
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