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Old 14-07-2021, 08:22 PM
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Finally some good salary discussions! Lets keep this up and ignore all the trolls.

Anw serious question and probably a niche one: would you guys recommend joining a "Christian" law firm? Those practising litigation would probably know which ones I'm talking about. Small-medium size outfits generally doing liti crim or community-type law where the majority of lawyers are Christians. Any negative experiences, esp. if you're not really actively religious?
My friend who is quite religious is in that firm. They say they don't discriminate, and to be fair they do have non-Christian lawyers in the firm, but the vast majority of them are (obviously) quite "hardcore" religious. It is okay in that they won't ask you to convert or anything, but you have to deal with slightly overzealous "preaching".

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Any firms that are not sweatshops?
Baker liti is good I heard

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Baker liti is good I heard
Who are the leaders there now?

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Any firms that are not sweatshops?
smaller firms?

or try places that don't have a pool system. that leaves out the large corporate firms i guess.
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Any firms that are not sweatshops?
R&T, WongP, A&G are all sweatshops. Local mid-sized firms tend to be the same as well. The root of the problem is the way in which their businesses are structured, downward fee pressure, and amount of competition amongst local firms.

Either go to a small firm (even then, you have to be discerning), or go to an international firm (where you'll be better compensated for your time).
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R&T, WongP, A&G are all sweatshops. Local mid-sized firms tend to be the same as well. The root of the problem is the way in which their businesses are structured, downward fee pressure, and amount of competition amongst local firms.

Either go to a small firm (even then, you have to be discerning), or go to an international firm (where you'll be better compensated for your time).
What about D&N?


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What about D&N?
Who?

Jk obv also a sweatshop
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Jk obv also a sweatshop
From a quality of life perspective, all large firms are roughly the same for junior lawyers. That said, there are better teams and worse teams, and team culture is based on the senior lawyers who set the tone. It is either luck or lots of insider knowledge and due diligence.
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Anyone saw the singaporelawmeme data? Seems like those called in 2019 but in mid sized or non big 4 are alr catching up or surpassing big 4 in overall comp (bonus included)
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From a quality of life perspective, all large firms are roughly the same for junior lawyers. That said, there are better teams and worse teams, and team culture is based on the senior lawyers who set the tone. It is either luck or lots of insider knowledge and due diligence.
Not true. Those 0-2pqe in some international firm work till 8pm at most everyday.
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