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Old 09-06-2021, 11:38 AM
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Best advice to a person deciding whether to do law?
Do it for passion/interest and not because of "money". May want to think about whether it's worthwhile to study for 4 years + 6 months Part B + 6 months TC (which may or may not result in a job as a lawyer).

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Best advice to a person deciding whether to do law?

The average law grad now cannot start out or get into a Big 4 and then subsequently move onto international. Temper your expectations and do not assume that just because you did well in JC/Poly, you will do well in university and the workplace. Prepare for the possibility of working in a small firm. If you are still game for what that entails, then choose law.

Even if you make it to Big 4/international, be prepared for incredibly long hours and drudgery without the intellectual stimulation which characterised law school.

Nonetheless, if you find gratification in producing a high quality piece of work, in strategising (for the aspiring litigator), and in giving precise advice to others, you might find a lifelong career in law.

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Other jobs than b4 law that can earn 10k by 33?
$10K p/m by 33 is dead average/median for law.

For e.g., my own profile - I consider myself to be right smack in the median in terms of legal career trajectory.

I'm local law grad (guy) in the age range of 30-32, inhouse in non-FI non-tech company. I'm drawing slightly under $10K pm incl. bonus and on track for around $10K by 33.

I didnt train in Big5. Grades were probably just enough for 2nd upper. If you were from local law school, you'd know that the 2nd upper-2nd lower cutoff can be quite opaque.

Most of my close law sch pals are also drawing around the same or even slightly higher as inhouse counsels. We mostly didn't train in Big 4 firms too - midsized and even some started in small-mid ones. None of us cld be considered the super mugger, deans-lister types or on the trajectory for top international firms.

AFAIK, my path in the legal industry is pretty average and by no means exceptional for peer of my PQE.

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Best advice to a person deciding whether to go in house at 1-2pqe?
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$10K p/m by 33 is dead average/median for law.

For e.g., my own profile - I consider myself to be right smack in the median in terms of legal career trajectory.

I'm local law grad (guy) in the age range of 30-32, inhouse in non-FI non-tech company. I'm drawing slightly under $10K pm incl. bonus and on track for around $10K by 33.

I didnt train in Big5. Grades were probably just enough for 2nd upper. If you were from local law school, you'd know that the 2nd upper-2nd lower cutoff can be quite opaque.

Most of my close law sch pals are also drawing around the same or even slightly higher as inhouse counsels. We mostly didn't train in Big 4 firms too - midsized and even some started in small-mid ones. None of us cld be considered the super mugger, deans-lister types or on the trajectory for top international firms.

AFAIK, my path in the legal industry is pretty average and by no means exceptional for peer of my PQE.

inhouse pay so jialat now?

i hit 120k pa when i was 30, working inhouse in public sector
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inhouse pay so jialat now?

i hit 120k pa when i was 30, working inhouse in public sector
I'm the poster u replied to. Did you move inhouse from Big4 corp practice? I was doing gen comm liti in a midsized firm so they probably took the opportunity to depress my asking pay.

The thing about inhouse is that the salary scale that you start off matters, because it is used to leverage for your next role.
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Best advice to a person deciding whether to go in house at 1-2pqe?
i went inhouse earlier than that

regretted it because income would have increased quicker had i exited at a higher PQE

not to mention training is pretty much non-existent inhouse
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Best advice to a person deciding whether to do law?
Don't do it.
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major in Computer Science instead
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major in Computer Science instead
Few years later there will also be a glut in computer science. Tech is booming but it’s getting very competitive in the front lead companies FYI. Tech is also one of the sectors that hire many talents outside of SG
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