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Old 08-06-2021, 07:06 PM
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Before Covid, had quite a lot of seniors just whiling (i.e. wasting) away time talking at the breakroom or doing irrelevant stuff, then starting work later in the day, just for facetime purposes.

I mostly finished my work within working hours (of course with OT - but never to the extent of seniors) but felt so paiseh to leave even though I think hours worked per day was the same between me and the seniors.

I honestly keep thinking, who does this serve? Everyone's quality of life decreases because of some stupid facetime culture.
Do you think this is a Big4 issue, a firm issue, or your team's issue?

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Old 08-06-2021, 08:57 PM
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I think a 4-5 PQE ten to twenty years ago earned $5-6k too... Meanwhile HDB prices continue to rise
Hard truths that some lawyers are blind to.

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Old 08-06-2021, 09:25 PM
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Before Covid, had quite a lot of seniors just whiling (i.e. wasting) away time talking at the breakroom or doing irrelevant stuff, then starting work later in the day, just for facetime purposes.

I mostly finished my work within working hours (of course with OT - but never to the extent of seniors) but felt so paiseh to leave even though I think hours worked per day was the same between me and the seniors.

I honestly keep thinking, who does this serve? Everyone's quality of life decreases because of some stupid facetime culture.
LOL same experience except it was the trainees/NQs who were the ones wasting time, going down to buy kopi (beo angmohs at the bar downstairs), drag dinner till damn late..... just so they can send out "3am" emails and moan about how overworked they were.

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Old 08-06-2021, 09:54 PM
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LOL same experience except it was the trainees/NQs who were the ones wasting time, going down to buy kopi (beo angmohs at the bar downstairs), drag dinner till damn late..... just so they can send out "3am" emails and moan about how overworked they were.
wah sounds like good life. easy to hit billables is it?
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Old 08-06-2021, 10:17 PM
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About how much can I expect for 5PQE at a mid size firm? getting 8k now lols
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How much should i expect for a 1 pqe in a small-mid sized firm? im currently earning $4k but i think that's really underpaying at this time but ive been told by people that i should be earning $5k+ which seems a bit excessive in this market... what is a fair rate to ask?
$4k for NQ at a small firm is pretty common. Knows of a 3PQE working in a small firm for $5k per month (long hours).
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$4k for NQ at a small firm is pretty common. Knows of a 3PQE working in a small firm for $5k per month (long hours).
not just responding to this specifically. find it a bit troubling that the entire basis of remuneration this whole time is simply "i am lawyer, therefore pay me >4k"

what value >4k is inherent in merely calling urself a lawyer? what does the lawyer contribute to the firm that is worth them paying >4k?
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Old 08-06-2021, 11:27 PM
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not just responding to this specifically. find it a bit troubling that the entire basis of remuneration this whole time is simply "i am lawyer, therefore pay me >4k"

what value >4k is inherent in merely calling urself a lawyer? what does the lawyer contribute to the firm that is worth them paying >4k?
i am on my 8th year and earning 3.4k a month..
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i am on my 8th year and earning 3.4k a month..
Cannot beat me, I only 2.2k and 7th year already
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Old 09-06-2021, 12:39 AM
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Other jobs than b4 law that can earn 10k by 33?
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