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Old 08-06-2021, 10:55 AM
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in house lawyers - do you ever feel bored with your job and wish you were back in practice? sometimes i think the work is too routine and brainless.
routine work over dealing with toxic firm culture

in-house colleagues just want to do their work and eff off after 6pm swee

last time in pvt practice wanna leave at 7:30pm also cannot, you’d be deemed not a “team player”, never stay late and “help” fellow assocs. cannot be seen enjoying life.9

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Old 08-06-2021, 11:13 AM
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routine work over dealing with toxic firm culture

in-house colleagues just want to do their work and eff off after 6pm swee

last time in pvt practice wanna leave at 7:30pm also cannot, you’d be deemed not a “team player”, never stay late and “help” fellow assocs. cannot be seen enjoying life.9
Really that's strange. I never had that experience even in a big local firm. As long as you're timely with work and generally responsive/contactable, nobody cares if you disappear for a midday coffee or leave in the evening for gym. nobody tracked what time i turn up in the office

There's actually more clockwatching and work tracking in inhouse at least. YMMV i suppose.

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Indeed. My b4 experience is the same. I have colleagues coming in at 11am and nobody will give a ****, even the partners, so long as you get your work done. You will always end up sending emails till 1am every other day anyway so you really think they will give a **** about what time you get to office?

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Old 08-06-2021, 12:40 PM
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hows the pay like
Depends on what you're comparing against.
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Old 08-06-2021, 01:26 PM
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Depends on what you're comparing against.
would expect it to be 20-30% cut from same pqe in priv practice?

(not sure if in-house counsel are entitled to stock compensation)
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Old 08-06-2021, 02:28 PM
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How much would a 10pqe be earning in a small firm?
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Indeed. My b4 experience is the same. I have colleagues coming in at 11am and nobody will give a ****, even the partners, so long as you get your work done. You will always end up sending emails till 1am every other day anyway so you really think they will give a **** about what time you get to office?
OP here. Also from B4. Indeed nobody gives a **** if you stroll in at 11am. But I felt a lot of pressure to be “seen” in the office after 7pm regardless of whether I was actually physically needed - there were a number of partners in my dept who cared a lot about facetime lol.
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OP here. Also from B4. Indeed nobody gives a **** if you stroll in at 11am. But I felt a lot of pressure to be “seen” in the office after 7pm regardless of whether I was actually physically needed - there were a number of partners in my dept who cared a lot about facetime lol.
Before Covid, had quite a lot of seniors just whiling (i.e. wasting) away time talking at the breakroom or doing irrelevant stuff, then starting work later in the day, just for facetime purposes.

I mostly finished my work within working hours (of course with OT - but never to the extent of seniors) but felt so paiseh to leave even though I think hours worked per day was the same between me and the seniors.

I honestly keep thinking, who does this serve? Everyone's quality of life decreases because of some stupid facetime culture.
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Old 08-06-2021, 04:20 PM
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in house lawyers - do you ever feel bored with your job and wish you were back in practice? sometimes i think the work is too routine and brainless.
feel like a factory worker at times, having to review >20 contracts a month
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feel like a factory worker at times, having to review >20 contracts a month
better than working 12 hour days for sure ? no meh?
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