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Old 23-05-2021, 03:14 AM
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What a narrow world view you have. Here's how your precious Oxbridge places when I introduce the United States of America.

1. Yale
2. Harvard/Stanford
3. Columbia/Chicago
4. NYU/Oxbridge

Like I said, try getting into a white shoe firm on Wall Street with your Oxbridge llb. You'd most likely get laughed out of the office.
Quoted for truth. Oxbridge ain't **** in New York offices, whereas a Harvard or Yale law degree would open eyes in London - arguably even more so than Oxbridge.

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Old 23-05-2021, 03:31 AM
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Quoted for truth. Oxbridge ain't **** in New York offices, whereas a Harvard or Yale law degree would open eyes in London - arguably even more so than Oxbridge.
I second this.

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Old 23-05-2021, 03:38 AM
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Anyway on the previous OPs on juniors relying on information on this thread, whoever can't tell a troll post from a real one is probably not a practising lawyer. Like all information you read on the Internet, if someone says the Earth is square do you tell 'rely' on it?

To the other guy on umbrage jokes, this forum is not even reflective of the legal profession. They're just trolling. Chill out. You're taking an anonymous forum that is almost like Reddit too seriously.

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Old 23-05-2021, 03:40 AM
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I have all those old aunties legal execs around me. Why canít they do their own work instead of engaging in gossip?
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This forum is a joke.
The troll keeps talking about using his Harvard degree to get into US white shoe.
If you have a Harvard degree and you cannot get into a US white shoe, it means the guy/girl is subpar.

Similarly if you have a Cambridge degree and cannot get into top barrister sets in London, or magic circle in London, it means you are subpar as well.

You compare country to country. Why would a Yale guy bother working in London when he can work in New York. Similarly, why would a Cambridge guy want to work in New York when he is valued in the magic circle in London?

Such fallacious arguments can never come from a lawyer, except non-lawyers who have been rejected by these universities or are out for blood having been rejected by lawyers before etc. Itís very telling when people go their way out to criticise top universities. You also canít be from Harvard. A self assured Harvard graduate doesnít need to put down a Cambridge graduate: both are primus inter pares.
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Old 23-05-2021, 03:53 AM
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What a narrow world view you have. Here's how your precious Oxbridge places when I introduce the United States of America.

1. Yale
2. Harvard/Stanford
3. Columbia/Chicago
4. NYU/Oxbridge

Like I said, try getting into a white shoe firm on Wall Street with your Oxbridge llb. You'd most likely get laughed out of the office.
Why would an Oxbridge guy/girl need to work in USA? The London market is huge enough for the Oxbridge guy to thrive very well.
Your concern is not required to say the least.
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Why would an Oxbridge guy/girl need to work in USA? The London market is huge enough for the Oxbridge guy to thrive very well.
Your concern is not required to say the least.
Yes surely the Oxbridge grad would stay in the Magic Circle and not ever consider a white shoe firm.


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This forum is a joke.
The troll keeps talking about using his Harvard degree to get into US white shoe.
If you have a Harvard degree and you cannot get into a US white shoe, it means the guy/girl is subpar.

Similarly if you have a Cambridge degree and cannot get into top barrister sets in London, or magic circle in London, it means you are subpar as well.

You compare country to country. Why would a Yale guy bother working in London when he can work in New York. Similarly, why would a Cambridge guy want to work in New York when he is valued in the magic circle in London?

Such fallacious arguments can never come from a lawyer, except non-lawyers who have been rejected by these universities or are out for blood having been rejected by lawyers before etc. Itís very telling when people go their way out to criticise top universities. You also canít be from Harvard. A self assured Harvard graduate doesnít need to put down a Cambridge graduate: both are primus inter pares.
I don't think the first and second sentences make sense. I do not think he suggested that. All he is suggesting is that Cambridge means a lot less in the US, which is the centre of the world economy.

I don't think he is suggesting the Cambridge guy move to the US, either.
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The fight between Harvard/Yale and Cambridge/Oxford is hilarious.

But for the purposes of putting things into perspective I did a quick check on Profit per equity partner of a white shoe (Cleary Gottlieb) versus a magic circle (slaughter & may) and results are interesting!

Both PEPs are at approx US$3M per year (2020 figures).
seriously donít understand why people are so enamored but the white shoe. Try getting to a magic circle first.
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A self assured Harvard graduate doesnít need to put down a Cambridge graduate: both are primus inter pares.
Cambridge acceptance rate: 21%

Harvard acceptance rate: 4.6%

Your statement is factually incorrect. Next to top American institutions, Cambridge (and its older brother Oxford) look like glorified state schools at best. Among the likes of Berkeley, UMich and UCLA.

The Ivy League - let alone the face of the Ivy League - is on another level altogether. Incomparable in wealth, power, prestige and alumni. Oxbridge is to Harvard, NUS is to Oxbridge.

Plebs here are obsessed with Oxbridge because it's the only 'top' institution they have a chance of attending. 80RP? 45 IB? 1600 SAT? Out of Raffles/Hwa Chong?

Nah, you're still not getting into Harvard, unless you've won the Nobel prize/cured cancer/professional athlete or something along those lines.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: wannabe scholars flock to Oxbridge. Our government sends a hundred or so every year to collect their degrees. Nothing special.

Only 1-5 Singaporeans have the privilege of being accepted into HYPSM every year. Attending a top American college is the mark of a true elite.


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