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Old 02-04-2021, 09:51 PM
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Lol, excellent. Anyway if you think all those international firms are the best to work in, wait till they ask you to go at 2-3 years mark...
Is it because your performance is sub-par?
Usually law firms will not ask the associate to leave, as the associate can sue for unfair dismissal.

Just need to review the past two to three years appraisals.
If the appraisals are good or average, there is no reason for dismissal, and a case can be built.

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Is it because your performance is sub-par?
Usually law firms will not ask the associate to leave, as the associate can sue for unfair dismissal.

Just need to review the past two to three years appraisals.
If the appraisals are good or average, there is no reason for dismissal, and a case can be built.
Are you from Singapore? In Singapore, have you seen any juniors suing their law firms for unfair dismissal?

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Old 02-04-2021, 10:46 PM
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Really amusing to see how naive some of the posts are, and how on the other extreme we have the smart alec (behave as if they know it all).

Anyway for what it is worth, the truth is young law graduates will always be extremely optimistic, given that they have not been poured cold water on by the truths of legal practice.
Ppl who have been in law long enough will know that only a select few really make it to the top. For every one person at the top, many would have been eliminated in the process.
Itís not like medicine where after 5 years most dudes/gals from the same batch are still in practice.

You hear of lawyers becoming hawkers, chefs etc.
Do you hear the same thing for the doctors? No

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Really amusing to see how naive some of the posts are, and how on the other extreme we have the smart alec (behave as if they know it all).

Anyway for what it is worth, the truth is young law graduates will always be extremely optimistic, given that they have not been poured cold water on by the truths of legal practice.
Ppl who have been in law long enough will know that only a select few really make it to the top. For every one person at the top, many would have been eliminated in the process.
Itís not like medicine where after 5 years most dudes/gals from the same batch are still in practice.

You hear of lawyers becoming hawkers, chefs etc.
Do you hear the same thing for the doctors? No
ya because doctors still stuck in residency for the next 10years.

You diss the 'smart-alecs', yet I can literally feel your arrogance through my screen.

Your definition of 'top' is extremely narrowly defined. There are countless ways for a lawyer to excel that are not within the legal rankings, or even in the legal industry at all.

Giving credit where credit is due, lawyers or perhaps most professional salarymen do indeed get jaded. Not because there isn't much growth, but simply because they are sick and tired of their job.

Those that aren't are the ones that have a certain degree of passion in the industry and thus naturally will climb the ranks. Or they just bite the bullet and say fk it might as well, since I've came so far.
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Is it because your performance is sub-par?
Usually law firms will not ask the associate to leave, as the associate can sue for unfair dismissal.

Just need to review the past two to three years appraisals.
If the appraisals are good or average, there is no reason for dismissal, and a case can be built.
Super self entitled millennial. Might as well say in the past your psle got 235 then u forever condemned cannot go law sch. Or that u get high rating 2 yrs ago u have life tenure. U make me sick with your spoilt brat behaviour I hope you arent in my firm
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Super self entitled millennial. Might as well say in the past your psle got 235 then u forever condemned cannot go law sch. Or that u get high rating 2 yrs ago u have life tenure. U make me sick with your spoilt brat behaviour I hope you arent in my firm
Keep quiet la
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Hi everyone, junior entering the industry here - got lucky to secure a b4 tc and was wondering if the retention rates are as good as rumours set it out to be. Do I have to royally screw up to not get retained? Heard stories about failing part A first time and getting kicked off the TC. Any recourse then?


Also, how come most previous posts mention something like Ďrelease retention rateí? Do firms publish specific retention rates or is it all hearsay?
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Hi everyone, junior entering the industry here - got lucky to secure a b4 tc and was wondering if the retention rates are as good as rumours set it out to be. Do I have to royally screw up to not get retained? Heard stories about failing part A first time and getting kicked off the TC. Any recourse then?


Also, how come most previous posts mention something like Ďrelease retention rateí? Do firms publish specific retention rates or is it all hearsay?
Yes you must screw up royally. But it depends from firm to firm and team to team. I suggest you find out about your team. Generally retention rate / attrition rate is both high in B4.

If you fail the Bar (Part A or Part B) you will be removed with immediate effect. This is what it is. I have heard of people being told to leave midway in TC because they failed Part B.
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Yes you must screw up royally. But it depends from firm to firm and team to team. I suggest you find out about your team. Generally retention rate / attrition rate is both high in B4.

If you fail the Bar (Part A or Part B) you will be removed with immediate effect. This is what it is. I have heard of people being told to leave midway in TC because they failed Part B.
I donít think itís all bad. Especially itís an automatic filter given the glut.
And the Part B bar exams is a national exam in a sense. All graduates (from whatever school you grad from have to take, whether as some posters claim delisted, listed, Oxbridge whatever). So itís also one measure of aptitude.
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