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Old 10-02-2021, 04:55 PM
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I am really curious as to which firms donít pay for TCs...so far I have yet to hear of any firms not paying anything.
I know of 2 - at golden mile complex. Dont know if they are still in operation. it's been a while since my training days. All my gossip is more than half a decade old. lol.

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I know of 2 - at golden mile complex. Dont know if they are still in operation. it's been a while since my training days. All my gossip is more than half a decade old. lol.
I do know of a few at Chinatown and HDB hub at toa payoh.

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Old 10-02-2021, 05:58 PM
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wah. that's a really shitty thing to do.
but also, trainee should be responsible for his own due diligence.
As a trainee, what due diligence can you do? You can only take your boss' word for it right (that he is qualified to take you on as a trainee). Also, it speaks volumes of this lawyer if his word can't even be trusted.

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As a trainee, what due diligence can you do? You can only take your boss' word for it right (that he is qualified to take you on as a trainee). Also, it speaks volumes of this lawyer if his word can't even be trusted.
You can literally google the lawyer's name and find out how many years exp he has + when he was called.

#justsaying
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As a trainee, what due diligence can you do? You can only take your boss' word for it right (that he is qualified to take you on as a trainee). Also, it speaks volumes of this lawyer if his word can't even be trusted.
Lawyer is a douche, no doubt.

But just cause someone's a douche doesn't mean you don't have a responsibility to yourself to make sure your interests are protected.

I'd take the wasted 6 months as school fees for a lesson in life. It'd also go a long way in terms of character building to accept some responsibility for what has happened.
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I know of a top litigator who has been mentioned in recent posts who took on a trainee even though he didn't have the requisite PQE, wasted the poor trainee's time and even tried to cover it up by offering to employ him as a legal executive instead.
Doubting the authenticity of this post. Donít people have to register their TCs and supervisors with SILE? Iím sure SILE and the Lawsoc will do their DD properly. Lol.
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Doubting the authenticity of this post. Donít people have to register their TCs and supervisors with SILE? Iím sure SILE and the Lawsoc will do their DD properly. Lol.
Are you the said top litigator trying to defend yourself? Lol don't bother you're alrd famous in some NUS circles.
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How is shooklin and cnplaw Ďs reputation, culture and retention rate?
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I'm in my final-year at NUS, 2:2. Have been offered a TC at a small corporate firm, but it is unpaid. Been applying to other firms with no reply. I know it's a pretty raw deal and I will be negotiating for a basic allowance.
My end goal is just use this to get qualified and then move in-house. I do have savings and side hustles that I can subsist on over the TC period.

Assuming the offer doesn't improve + I don't get other corporate offers, is it justified or is the market for 2:2 corp firms better than this? .
Hey there. Usually I just read this thread and cringe at the trolls, but I felt I should pipe up now because I was in your position not too long ago.

My advice is to keep hunting for better offers. Ask everyone you know about openings; not everyone advertises on the LawSoc classifieds. Even during your Part B, you may meet practitioners during who can connect you to lawyers looking for trainees urgently. Thatís how several of my friends got their TCs.

(A bit of not-very-wholesome advice: you can just accept this current offer as a safety net and break the TC later on when you get a better deal. A firm that offers TCs for no pay is not a firm youíd regret burning bridges with anyway.)

Speaking from experience, I was a 2:2 like you and managed to get a decent TC during my last year of law school. There are bosses out there who donít care so much about grades, but you have to do the legwork to stand out in other ways. Spend a little more time on each cover letter and prep well for every interview you get ó my managing partner said he gave me an interview solely because I had a strong cover letter, and hired me because I seemed genuine during the interview. You can make up for a weaker academic foundation, but you really canít teach attitude.

Gentle suggestion: be open to other areas of practice than corporate. The truth stings, but at our grade band we canít really be choosers. It would be good if you keep your mind open to other areas of law too. Itíll widen your net and make it easier for you to get to the next stage, which is to just get called without being f**ked over too badly. You can always switch tracks later, especially in your first few years of practice. Itís really not a situation where if you do liti for your TC youíre stuck in liti forever. It might be harder, yes, but itís not insurmountable.

In the words of a very wise senior of mine: law is a marathon, not a sprint. 75% of lawyers leave practice within the first 10 years, so you donít have to be the very best, you just have to outlast everyone else. Donít let the toxicity (of this thread and of practice in general) get you down, just stay grounded and work hard to make up for your shortcomings.

All the very best, kid.
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