Sales job: International travel/Allowance - Page 2 - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Sales job: International travel/Allowance

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #11 (permalink)  
Old 24-06-2016, 03:39 PM
Verified Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 10
terminator is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Ask the HR. You are entitled to know such relevant policies. Zero value in asking here, we have no clue which company or industry you are in to even give you a benchmark.
I know it depends on policy but I just don't want to be shocked, confused or be ignorant when a policy is dictated to me. So that is why assessing from opinion, experience and advice of others, just in order to be prepared. Tks anyway

Reply With Quote
  #12 (permalink)  
Old 24-06-2016, 04:18 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by terminator View Post
You say junior staff can request advance payment? I thought it was other way round- can ask junior staff to do anyhow?
Depends on the HR travel policy.

Quote:
Originally Posted by terminator View Post
Yes I also find the per diem model seems nice. So did they give you per diem allowance upfront ?
Many companies don't practice per diem anymore. Back when I did get per diem it was always on reimbursement. Don't be surprised that your admin may book hotels for you but you may have to pay first upon check out since it is unlikely that your company will have corporate accounts with so many hotels in so many countries.

Quote:
Originally Posted by terminator View Post
I really hope they already have a generous/reasonable travel policy in handbook. And hope it's advance allowance, and whatever is leftover based on receipts, they take from me. Hope that they don't make a fishy/customized policy.
Don't expect generous travel policies in this current economic climate. What do you mean customized policy?? Your company can dictate anything they want but no reputable company will short change you over this kind of things la.....

Quote:
Originally Posted by terminator View Post
So may I ask you if you happened to travel overseas on public holiday(in Singapore)/weekend, then did you claim timeoff for that? And how about the medical insurance during overseas travel?
Depends on HR travel policy. Usually you get off in lieu but there are times when I don't claim. As a sales person you will be very flexi and you are bound to slack off during office hours so learn how to give and take. Don't "gek kao" everything down to the last min.... Medical insurance usually covered by company group policy.

IN short, FIND OUR FROM HR.

Reply With Quote
  #13 (permalink)  
Old 24-06-2016, 04:20 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by terminator View Post
Well, that is interesting piece of advice and encouraging too. Yes, I don't want to cling my thoughts on these and end up losing focus on real thing. That is why I need a clear perspective on this based on experience of other people.

You say junior staff can request advance payment? I thought it was other way round- can ask junior staff to do anyhow?

Yes I also find the per diem model seems nice. So did they give you per diem allowance upfront ?

I really hope they already have a generous/reasonable travel policy in handbook. And hope it's advance allowance, and whatever is leftover based on receipts, they take from me. Hope that they don't make a fishy/customized policy.

So may I ask you if you happened to travel overseas on public holiday(in Singapore)/weekend, then did you claim timeoff for that? And how about the medical insurance during overseas travel?

Tks
Just ask HR lah, how you expect ppl here to answer things like time off, public holiday, insurance. Just because you are new doesn't mean no common sense right.

Stop asking random stuff here. PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL YOUR HR!!!

Reply With Quote
  #14 (permalink)  
Old 25-06-2016, 12:47 PM
Verified Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 10
terminator is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Depends on the HR travel policy.



Many companies don't practice per diem anymore. Back when I did get per diem it was always on reimbursement. Don't be surprised that your admin may book hotels for you but you may have to pay first upon check out since it is unlikely that your company will have corporate accounts with so many hotels in so many countries.



Don't expect generous travel policies in this current economic climate. What do you mean customized policy?? Your company can dictate anything they want but no reputable company will short change you over this kind of things la.....



Depends on HR travel policy. Usually you get off in lieu but there are times when I don't claim. As a sales person you will be very flexi and you are bound to slack off during office hours so learn how to give and take. Don't "gek kao" everything down to the last min.... Medical insurance usually covered by company group policy.

IN short, FIND OUR FROM HR.
Tks for your info. I am coming to realize that: reimbursements is a common practice. It depends on the HR's practice policy and if reimbursements is the way then I would just need to politely ask if advance is possible. But what you said about paying first for hotel and flights is disturbing. Because from what I think, travel will not be occasional but regularly. Even if they don't have corporate account with hotels/airlines then they still cannot pay first by company's debit/credit card via online booking? I think it is possible to do so.

I understand from the replies so far that I don't need to be too much worried or fussy about all these expenses matter, especially the subsistence expenses. I believe the HR has been dealing with this in past so they should have some practice in place.

Regarding the "customized" policy thing: You make sense that a good/caring employer will not shortchange an employee over such matters. After all, they should know that if it gets burdensome for the staff then the staff may have second thoughts about the job. Taking pressure of workload and tough deadlines is one thing, but being worried due to money matters is another issue. I think it would just be better to politely discuss in case such business-related expenses get burdensome for me, like if I need to pay a lot of my own money first or that the reimbursements are being delayed, etc.

I would appreciate if you can advise if my thought process is ok??

Last edited by terminator; 25-06-2016 at 12:50 PM.
Reply With Quote
  #15 (permalink)  
Old 25-06-2016, 12:53 PM
Verified Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2016
Posts: 10
terminator is on a distinguished road
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Just ask HR lah, how you expect ppl here to answer things like time off, public holiday, insurance. Just because you are new doesn't mean no common sense right.

Stop asking random stuff here. PICK UP THE PHONE AND CALL YOUR HR!!!
This is random stuff but not irrelevant. I had clearly mentioned in my first post that people with knowledge or experience may advise. And so far the input has been great. I expect them to answer the things mentioned above because they may have dealt with same things on their own job or are aware of the practice in their company? I am not asking them to tell me what is the right way or how it should be with my future employer, just asking to share their own opinion/experience. Tks for the advice about asking from the HR, though.
Reply With Quote
  #16 (permalink)  
Old 25-06-2016, 05:34 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by terminator View Post
Tks for your info. I am coming to realize that: reimbursements is a common practice. It depends on the HR's practice policy and if reimbursements is the way then I would just need to politely ask if advance is possible. But what you said about paying first for hotel and flights is disturbing. Because from what I think, travel will not be occasional but regularly. Even if they don't have corporate account with hotels/airlines then they still cannot pay first by company's debit/credit card via online booking? I think it is possible to do so.

I understand from the replies so far that I don't need to be too much worried or fussy about all these expenses matter, especially the subsistence expenses. I believe the HR has been dealing with this in past so they should have some practice in place.

Regarding the "customized" policy thing: You make sense that a good/caring employer will not shortchange an employee over such matters. After all, they should know that if it gets burdensome for the staff then the staff may have second thoughts about the job. Taking pressure of workload and tough deadlines is one thing, but being worried due to money matters is another issue. I think it would just be better to politely discuss in case such business-related expenses get burdensome for me, like if I need to pay a lot of my own money first or that the reimbursements are being delayed, etc.

I would appreciate if you can advise if my thought process is ok??
OMG - Pick up the bloody phone and call HR and ask whatever thing you wanna ask!!! Happy with the answer take the job, not happy just sayonara. I really find it ridiculous that you are going on and on about something like this emoing and fantasizing about some business case as if you are pitching for a mutli-billion dollar deal.

You are not going to survive in the sales world with this sort of mentality. Successful sales people are bold, confident, go-getter and unafraid of any rejection. So far, you are displaying all the opposite traits.

Either wise up and change your behavior or go look for some other desk bound job. Hate to sound rude, but you are not going to last a year in sales with this sort of humjiness when you haven't even start work.

Jeezzzz
Reply With Quote

  #18 (permalink)  
Old 25-06-2016, 10:19 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
You are not going to survive in the sales world with this sort of mentality. Successful sales people are bold, confident, go-getter and unafraid of any rejection. So far, you are displaying all the opposite traits.
Agreed. Stop bitching about it and pick up the damn phone and talk to HR. What is TS selling?? I'd be more concerned about closing my first sale than such trivial things.
Reply With Quote
  #19 (permalink)  
Old 27-06-2016, 02:10 PM
Salesman
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by terminator View Post
This is random stuff but not irrelevant. I had clearly mentioned in my first post that people with knowledge or experience may advise. And so far the input has been great. I expect them to answer the things mentioned above because they may have dealt with same things on their own job or are aware of the practice in their company? I am not asking them to tell me what is the right way or how it should be with my future employer, just asking to share their own opinion/experience. Tks for the advice about asking from the HR, though.
Just sharing my experience in these fields, been with small and MNC companies before.

If it is a MNCs, I believed all budget will need to be approved through your company process software, your immediate boss will need to know the expense, and also the CFO as well. Once they approved, then you can proceed. Some provides (Japanese co.) fixed allowance per day, but exclude flghts, accommodation. In American companies, usually you have to pay first and claim when you are back in office. But claiming will also depends on the type of reports you are sending to them. If it is a good trip, they won't ask so much. But if it is not a fruitful trip, probably they will be picking on you.

If it is a SME, best is to check with HR first. Or someone you feel comfortable in the office (after your first day). If you are asking your boss, sure he will say take the most economical accommodation, flights, meals, etc.

For big companies, they should be an employee handbook which states the benefits, what grade of benefits are you entitled, etc...

So simple.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

Tags
sales & marketing

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Job with travel opportunities and decent work life balance? verselines Income and Jobs 13 29-12-2021 12:52 AM
Join the MLM Travel Industry HanMark Income and Jobs 34 11-10-2015 02:11 PM
Travel/Hospitality/Airlines Salary Daryl Income and Jobs 13 03-07-2013 06:11 AM
Is Medical Allowance Cpf Payable or Taxable? BobbyJ Income and Jobs 1 28-12-2010 05:32 PM

» 30 Recent Threads
UOB Management Associate Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,457 Replies, 784,473 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
10,835 Replies, 6,667,188 Views
Is getting a PMP worth it ?
4 Replies, 7,116 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
15,309 Replies, 4,983,704 Views
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
21,014 Replies, 10,329,712 Views
GovTech ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,161 Replies, 2,163,751 Views
MAS for Mid Career Professionals ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,801 Replies, 1,044,427 Views
LTA (Land Transport Authority) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
679 Replies, 388,408 Views
Visa Graduate Development Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
207 Replies, 134,639 Views
SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,922 Replies, 2,902,732 Views
Nparks ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
39 Replies, 34,386 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,828 Replies, 4,656,990 Views
ITE Polytechnic Scheme ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
309 Replies, 369,131 Views
Civil Service Performance Bonus ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,338 Replies, 4,770,741 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
16,342 Replies, 12,456,276 Views
Civil Service Current Estimated... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
169 Replies, 309,175 Views
Constituency Manager (People... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
989 Replies, 813,959 Views
Julius Baer Graduate Program 2023 ( 1 2 3)
21 Replies, 14,809 Views
Roles in accenture singapore ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
7,385 Replies, 2,324,354 Views
HTX (Home Team Science and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
752 Replies, 358,505 Views
Shopee fresh grad pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,049 Replies, 440,594 Views
DSTA (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,464 Replies, 1,375,267 Views
ST Electronics ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
3,767 Replies, 1,544,957 Views
IMDA (under MCI) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,260 Replies, 613,633 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,123 Replies, 3,738,695 Views
MX12 reappointed at MX11
8 Replies, 825 Views
Hospital (Private or Public)... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
749 Replies, 405,600 Views
NCS (SingTel subsidiary) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,329 Replies, 1,142,348 Views
MFA- Foreign Service... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
54 Replies, 84,985 Views
Cybersecurity/Info security career ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
511 Replies, 268,618 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 08:35 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2