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Salary.sg 17-04-2009 07:04 PM

Our Poll Results: 45% Fresh Graduates Jobless
 
In the graduate employment survey conducted by Salary.sg, 45% of the respondents indicated that they are without jobs.

In this jobless group, 60% are actively looking for a job, while the remaining are not.

The poll was conducted over about 10 days with a better-than-expected 439 responses.

http://www.salary.sg/wp-content/uplo...sults-2009.png

As for the 55% (or so) with jobs, the median income is between $2,001 and $3,000. Not too bad.

Contrast our survey results with those (overly) positive-looking ones from the 3 local universities.

Note: Figures do not add up to 100% due to rounding.

http://www.salary.sg/2009/our-poll-r...uates-jobless/

TRUE-- 17-04-2009 10:46 PM

4503
 
it's true. i'm watching the tv show on 8 now, also talking about jobless grads. tragic.

results is biased-- 19-04-2009 09:41 AM

4508
 
idle grads got more time to do surveys

haha-- 19-04-2009 11:47 AM

4509
 
haha... how true

wiseinvestor-- 19-05-2009 05:57 PM

4690
 
wa got 20% of fresh graduates with more than $4000 in these times.

figures look correct-- 19-05-2009 09:41 PM

4691
 
hey, check out the figures from MOE at http://www.salary.sg/2009/graduate-employment-surveys-published-2009/ . The median salary for many grads are already close to $3500

asad 25-06-2009 11:57 AM

i am a fresh grad and my major is BIS (business information systems )and i was ranked 4th among bis grads and i’m still jobless

http://www.salary.sg/2009/our-poll-r.../#comment-5126

uni 25-06-2009 03:29 PM

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Originally Posted by asad (Post 4005)
i am a fresh grad and my major is BIS (business information systems )and i was ranked 4th among bis grads and i’m still jobless

Our Poll Results: 45% Fresh Graduates Jobless | Salary.sg - Your Salary in Singapore

Which university?

quek 26-06-2009 10:19 AM

It's quite true that many recent graduates whom I know personally are without jobs. Many have sent out tons of resumes but only a few got interviews. Only the luckiest ones have jobs.

Does anyone here have similar experience? What's the feeling on the ground? Seems to me stock & property prices and the Great Singapore Sale do not give the correct picture of the gloomy situation on the ground.

grad 08-07-2009 11:22 PM

Sadly, there are still many grads still intensively looking for jobs. Many have given up on joining the private sector (MNCs) and have decided to start off in government agencies or even be teachers until the job market recovers. Half my friends are jobless.

anon 06-08-2009 12:53 AM

I'm a 1st class hons and i'm jobless too. Go figure.

Unregistered 06-08-2009 11:33 AM

don't be picky
 
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Originally Posted by anon (Post 4303)
I'm a 1st class hons and i'm jobless too. Go figure.

There are 25,000 jobs available. Don't be picky.

Laid off? Don’t worry. 25,000 jobs in the market, says Manpower Minister : The Online Citizen - a community of singaporeans

Minister Gan also said some time ago: "... if in a crisis situation, you are willing to sit at home and do nothing for one year, not doing anything, that means you are not very flexible ..."

Be flexible. Go be a toilet cleaner and stop complaining.

Unregistered 06-08-2009 12:40 PM

degree
 
what courses have better employment rate? I don't believe the graduate employment survey.

Unregistered 06-08-2009 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 4305)
what courses have better employment rate? I don't believe the graduate employment survey.

Medicine, dentistry, law, accountancy, pharmacy.

Unregistered 06-08-2009 11:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 4308)
Medicine, dentistry, law, accountancy, pharmacy.

I think all the above except accountancy are considered protected occupation

Goondo 07-08-2009 12:11 PM

45% Fresh Graduates Jobless? Come on lar.

If you are fresh grad and jobless, you WILL have time to come to Salary.sg forum to take survey.

The other working graduates are too busy doing OT. Remember our Labour Minster says Singaporean must be productive, 10 person must do 12 person job.
Next year, 8 person do 12 person job. The year after next year, 6 person do 12 person job... ...future (-2) person do 12 person's job...

Why not change the heading. "55% fresh graduates who come and take survey are employed and are not doing 12 person's job". They Scholars? Bosses son?

Or "45% fresh graduates who come and take survey are unemployed". They see the higher pay posted here and not willing to lower their expectation.

Minster : You must lower your expectation, expect low pay to remain employable. 10 person do 12 person job.
Freshie : What about you?
Minster : I am talent (who ask you cannot study? Or is familee). Without me, you won't even have low pay jobs to lower your expectation for. We need 3 to do 1 person job, because important job and decisions need to think thrice.

Unregistered 25-06-2018 02:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Goondo (Post 4311)
45% Fresh Graduates Jobless? Come on lar.

If you are fresh grad and jobless, you WILL have time to come to Salary.sg forum to take survey.

The other working graduates are too busy doing OT. Remember our Labour Minster says Singaporean must be productive, 10 person must do 12 person job.
Next year, 8 person do 12 person job. The year after next year, 6 person do 12 person job... ...future (-2) person do 12 person's job...

Why not change the heading. "55% fresh graduates who come and take survey are employed and are not doing 12 person's job". They Scholars? Bosses son?

Or "45% fresh graduates who come and take survey are unemployed". They see the higher pay posted here and not willing to lower their expectation.

Minster : You must lower your expectation, expect low pay to remain employable. 10 person do 12 person job.
Freshie : What about you?
Minster : I am talent (who ask you cannot study? Or is familee). Without me, you won't even have low pay jobs to lower your expectation for. We need 3 to do 1 person job, because important job and decisions need to think thrice.

time to revive this thread

Unregistered 25-06-2018 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 108296)
time to revive this thread

Market seems to be doing fine

Unregistered 25-06-2018 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 108313)
Market seems to be doing fine

izzit
whh sectors u r referring to
apply so many jobs, ft and or pt or temp also no luck

Unregistered 26-06-2018 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 108319)
izzit
whh sectors u r referring to
apply so many jobs, ft and or pt or temp also no luck

Overall market as a whole.

Unregistered 29-03-2020 10:28 PM

Time to revive this thread

Unregistered 29-03-2020 10:51 PM

Haiz. I am a fresh grad and tried offering $200 per hour to old uncles last week. Quite lucrative. Many of my girl friends are turning into the flesh trade too. Given that all of us cannot find jobs!

Unregistered 29-03-2020 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 131192)
Time to revive this thread

Holy ****. Nice necro

Unregistered 30-03-2020 12:48 AM

local uni grad here, no job. been searching since last year.

this year really hong gan

Unregistered 30-03-2020 07:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 131206)
local uni grad here, no job. been searching since last year.

this year really hong gan

Have you understood why?

Unregistered 30-03-2020 11:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 131206)
local uni grad here, no job. been searching since last year.

this year really hong gan

Major? Honours classification?

What jobs you looking at? What is your approx. salary expectation?

Unregistered 30-03-2020 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 131232)
Major? Honours classification?

What jobs you looking at? What is your approx. salary expectation?

NUS accountancy, honours with merit. Tried big 4 but couldn't get so trying mid tier audit firms. hoping for 3k but most mid tiers pay 2.7k. are my expectations really too high?

Unregistered 30-03-2020 12:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 131239)
NUS accountancy, honours with merit. Tried big 4 but couldn't get so trying mid tier audit firms. hoping for 3k but most mid tiers pay 2.7k. are my expectations really too high?

And I thought engineering's 3.5k starting was bad...

No 3k is not unreasonable. It's the mass supply of accountants to be that's unreasonable. You might want to either find a smaller accounting firm that pays better, or to do something other than accounting.

Unregistered 30-03-2020 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 131243)
And I thought engineering's 3.5k starting was bad...

No 3k is not unreasonable. It's the mass supply of accountants to be that's unreasonable. You might want to either find a smaller accounting firm that pays better, or to do something other than accounting.

accounting sector starting pay is very low but they promise "learning opportunities" and "high increment"

Unregistered 31-03-2020 04:49 PM

happier
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 131270)
accounting sector starting pay is very low but they promise "learning opportunities" and "high increment"

be nice to the partners...lol

lewis.tee88 14-04-2020 12:18 PM

Went thru some up and down in my career. after sometime, i start to explore into real estate. is not a easy job, but got stable income.

don't take those "publish" income from those top producer. not everyone can hit that. but can make enough income

Unregistered 14-04-2020 03:14 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis.tee88 (Post 132221)
Went thru some up and down in my career. after sometime, i start to explore into real estate. is not a easy job, but got stable income.

don't take those "publish" income from those top producer. not everyone can hit that. but can make enough income

real estate agents and insurance agents are unscrupulous. i only trust family members, the rest are out to squeeze profits without caring about you.

there is no trust, only selfish interests in this industry.

i was in this line for 12 years until the industry became too toxic nowadays. under table transactions and so on. those with top sales, how many of them were through legit means?

Unregistered 14-04-2020 04:39 PM

I think can add those bank rm/financial advisers to the list

Unregistered 14-04-2020 07:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 132240)
I think can add those bank rm/financial advisers to the list

Basically any sales position that is purely commission driven.

Unregistered 20-04-2020 11:40 AM

many of my peers were unable to find a job. but I was lucky to have accepted a role in the
stanchart graduate programme. the pay was 5.8k. but thanks to covid they rescinded my offer and now most of the bank vacancies are closed. what other relevant jobs are there for me now? i'm worried if I do something unrelated, it'll be too difficult to rejoin banking when the virus subsides

Unregistered 20-04-2020 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 132472)
many of my peers were unable to find a job. but I was lucky to have accepted a role in the
stanchart graduate programme. the pay was 5.8k. but thanks to covid they rescinded my offer and now most of the bank vacancies are closed. what other relevant jobs are there for me now? i'm worried if I do something unrelated, it'll be too difficult to rejoin banking when the virus subsides

Which dept was your offer under?

Unregistered 21-04-2020 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 132479)
Which dept was your offer under?

corporate finance

Unregistered 21-04-2020 08:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 132546)
corporate finance

Don't bluff la I worked for 2 years under corporate finance from 2018 batch salary now also not 5k... What nonsense la. You calculated bonus and cpf employer and employer is it.

Unregistered 21-04-2020 11:29 PM

actly i know someone in this year's sc IGP programme, global banking. starting pay is 5k eh. but im not here to argue w u LOL dont believe is ur prob go ask ur juniors when they start work in september

Unregistered 21-04-2020 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 132593)
Don't bluff la I worked for 2 years under corporate finance from 2018 batch salary now also not 5k... What nonsense la. You calculated bonus and cpf employer and employer is it.

I also know a fresh grad at scb starting 5k+ so its not bluff leh


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