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noobieguy 14-03-2016 12:05 PM

Structured Programme VS Direct Hire
 
I am from local uni and going to graduate in Dec 2016. (i am from poly route)

all structured programme (GAP, MAP) take in batches only on July yearly. So I could not join any of the programme at all. Just now a HR of one of the programme i apply called and he say he cant proceed with my application cause i graduate in Dec and will forward to another recruiter that do direct hire.

So i wanna ask what the differences between structure programme and direct hire for fresh grad? which one is better?

thank you!

Unregistered 14-03-2016 12:50 PM

Structured programs such as Management Trainee and Future Leaders usually promised you a fast tracked career in that company and you will usually get to have international exposure in these programs. Therefore, the prospect is there.

I would say always aim to join the management programs if you have the option. They are of course, very competitive. However, if they could offer you a direct hire position, why not? The job market is tough right now.

We can have 200 candidates applied for a single structured programs and eventually filtered of to less than 10 pax to go for their assessment center. Eventually only 2 of them got selected. Do the math, the percentage is low unless you are confident that you can really shine.

Care to share which program did u apply?

noobieguy 14-03-2016 01:19 PM

what the diff between these 2?

in term of pay..
in term of promotion.. (guess structure programme is better imo)

disadvantage of graduate in dec :(

Unregistered 14-03-2016 01:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobieguy (Post 81285)
what the diff between these 2?

in term of pay..
in term of promotion.. (guess structure programme is better imo)

disadvantage of graduate in dec :(

Care to share which company/program did u apply for?

IF you read, I mentioned fast tracked above..

Unregistered 14-03-2016 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobieguy (Post 81279)
I am from local uni and going to graduate in Dec 2016. (i am from poly route)

all structured programme (GAP, MAP) take in batches only on July yearly. So I could not join any of the programme at all. Just now a HR of one of the programme i apply called and he say he cant proceed with my application cause i graduate in Dec and will forward to another recruiter that do direct hire.

So i wanna ask what the differences between structure programme and direct hire for fresh grad? which one is better?

thank you!

Just start looking for normal jobs regardless of structured or not. Got a good enough offer just accept regardless of program or not.

You shouldn’t be wasting time hanging around for 6-8 months just to apply for “structured programs”. Chances are not high statistically anyway, ~ 2-3 openings for every 500 applicants, especially those prestigious MNCs. You don’t want to fall into the vicious cycle of being unemployed too long which damages the CV and invites questions which further makes it difficult to get a job and prolongs unemployment.

As you don’t seem to know much, I presume you are not one of those with strong internships and insider network which makes it even harder for you to get in. Cold application for MAP is possible, but it does put you in a disadvantage compared to those with an insider sponsor.

Try and see if you can secure a few solid normal offers from big MNCs easily. If you cannot even get a few of them within a short time, chances are you aren’t going to fly when applying for a MAP.

noobieguy 14-03-2016 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 81293)
Just start looking for normal jobs regardless of structured or not. Got a good enough offer just accept regardless of program or not.

You shouldn’t be wasting time hanging around for 6-8 months just to apply for “structured programs”. Chances are not high statistically anyway, ~ 2-3 openings for every 500 applicants, especially those prestigious MNCs. You don’t want to fall into the vicious cycle of being unemployed too long which damages the CV and invites questions which further makes it difficult to get a job and prolongs unemployment.

As you don’t seem to know much, I presume you are not one of those with strong internships and insider network which makes it even harder for you to get in. Cold application for MAP is possible, but it does put you in a disadvantage compared to those with an insider sponsor.

Try and see if you can secure a few solid normal offers from big MNCs easily. If you cannot even get a few of them within a short time, chances are you aren’t going to fly when applying for a MAP.

currently im intern at a Oil&gas MNC.. i just scared that they dont open a entry-level position for a graduate.. so i am finding a backup plan..

and im not so stupid to wait for 6mth to get into structured programme..
and yes, i dont have insider connection. im just trying my luck only..

wonder if the pay wise for direct hire varies?

anyway i apply the DBS GAP...

Unregistered 14-03-2016 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobieguy (Post 81279)
I am from local uni and going to graduate in Dec 2016. (i am from poly route)

all structured programme (GAP, MAP) take in batches only on July yearly. So I could not join any of the programme at all. Just now a HR of one of the programme i apply called and he say he cant proceed with my application cause i graduate in Dec and will forward to another recruiter that do direct hire.

So i wanna ask what the differences between structure programme and direct hire for fresh grad? which one is better?

thank you!

Just start looking for normal jobs regardless of structured or not. Got a good enough offer just accept regardless of program or not.

You shouldn’t be wasting time hanging around for 6-8 months just to apply for “structured programs”. Chances are not high statistically anyway, ~ 2-3 openings for every 500 applicants, especially those prestigious MNCs. You don’t want to fall into the vicious cycle of being unemployed too long which damages the CV and invites questions which further makes it difficult to get a job and prolongs unemployment.

As you don’t seem to know much, I presume you are not one of those with strong internships and insider network which makes it even harder for you to get in. Cold application for MAP is possible, but it does put you in a disadvantage compared to those with an insider sponsor.

Try and see if you can secure a few solid normal offers from big MNCs easily. If you cannot even get a few of them within a short time, chances are you aren’t going to fly when applying for a MAP.

Unregistered 14-03-2016 04:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobieguy (Post 81297)
currently im intern at a Oil&gas MNC.. i just scared that they dont open a entry-level position for a graduate.. so i am finding a backup plan..

and im not so stupid to wait for 6mth to get into structured programme..
and yes, i dont have insider connection. im just trying my luck only..

wonder if the pay wise for direct hire varies?

anyway i apply the DBS GAP...

which co.? exxon, shell, bp or chevron? what is your interest and profession of study? how come suddenly from o&g side to banking? if u already have strong internship i dun see the pt of going for a local co.

noobieguy 14-03-2016 04:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 81302)
which co.? exxon, shell, bp or chevron? what is your interest and profession of study? how come suddenly from o&g side to banking? if u already have strong internship i dun see the pt of going for a local co.

cos im worry they dont have a entry-level job by the time i graduate lor..

im study IT.

Unregistered 14-03-2016 05:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by noobieguy (Post 81305)
cos im worry they dont have a entry-level job by the time i graduate lor..

im study IT.

aiya just wait till u graduate then apply whatever comes along lar. so early kancheong also no use, u apply when the program not open they just thank u for ur interest and say will keep ur cv in mind (i.e. into thrash bin)


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