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Old 10-03-2016, 03:01 PM
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Hi bro and sis here,

Let me introduce my self, im 40yo, male, work as a sales engineer @ monthly income 3.6K, with 2 kids @ 3 and 6yo,
I a degree holder, i obtain my degree course from Kaplan, (University of south Australlia) Bachelor in MEchanical Engineering,
My question is, currently im thinking wanted to quit from here, and find another job( such as sales manager) with the expected salary is above 4k..
But sometimes i think back at the age of 40, the employer will still offer me that what i wanted ? such as position and salary ?
Currently the job market is that really bad for the middle age man like me ?
I see some of my friend , around same age with me, they already work for the company over 10 years and a manager position, considered already step into comfort zone..
But i still struggling in this company with this pay and no cant climb up to managerial position.
Anyonr can give me some advised ? or you has encountered this before ? (same as my situation )
can share how you deal with it ?

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Hi bro and sis here,

Let me introduce my self, im 40yo, male, work as a sales engineer @ monthly income 3.6K, with 2 kids @ 3 and 6yo,
I a degree holder, i obtain my degree course from Kaplan, (University of south Australlia) Bachelor in MEchanical Engineering,
My question is, currently im thinking wanted to quit from here, and find another job( such as sales manager) with the expected salary is above 4k..
But sometimes i think back at the age of 40, the employer will still offer me that what i wanted ? such as position and salary ?
Currently the job market is that really bad for the middle age man like me ?
I see some of my friend , around same age with me, they already work for the company over 10 years and a manager position, considered already step into comfort zone..
But i still struggling in this company with this pay and no cant climb up to managerial position.
Anyonr can give me some advised ? or you has encountered this before ? (same as my situation )
can share how you deal with it ?
Good luck in saving up for your retirement. Continue to work till 67.

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Hi bro and sis here,

Let me introduce my self, im 40yo, male, work as a sales engineer @ monthly income 3.6K, with 2 kids @ 3 and 6yo,
I a degree holder, i obtain my degree course from Kaplan, (University of south Australlia) Bachelor in MEchanical Engineering,
My question is, currently im thinking wanted to quit from here, and find another job( such as sales manager) with the expected salary is above 4k..
But sometimes i think back at the age of 40, the employer will still offer me that what i wanted ? such as position and salary ?
Currently the job market is that really bad for the middle age man like me ?
I see some of my friend , around same age with me, they already work for the company over 10 years and a manager position, considered already step into comfort zone..
But i still struggling in this company with this pay and no cant climb up to managerial position.
Anyonr can give me some advised ? or you has encountered this before ? (same as my situation )
can share how you deal with it ?
What are your skillsets? Do you have extensive experience leading sizable sales team? Do you have some sort of niche network and industry insights that companies are willing to pay for?

It is a bit hard to just ask another company to pay your more and give you a managerial role if you don't have the requisites. There are many youngsters with a few years sales experience willing to take 2k+, what do you bring to the table these youngsters don't?

When you can answer then you will know the answer. As always especially at your age where keeping the current job might be challenging already, always remember do not quit until you get a job. Once you are unemployed, it's sibei jialat.

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Hi bro and sis here,

Let me introduce my self, im 40yo, male, work as a sales engineer @ monthly income 3.6K, with 2 kids @ 3 and 6yo,
I a degree holder, i obtain my degree course from Kaplan, (University of south Australlia) Bachelor in MEchanical Engineering,
My question is, currently im thinking wanted to quit from here, and find another job( such as sales manager) with the expected salary is above 4k..
But sometimes i think back at the age of 40, the employer will still offer me that what i wanted ? such as position and salary ?
Currently the job market is that really bad for the middle age man like me ?
I see some of my friend , around same age with me, they already work for the company over 10 years and a manager position, considered already step into comfort zone..
But i still struggling in this company with this pay and no cant climb up to managerial position.
Anyonr can give me some advised ? or you has encountered this before ? (same as my situation )
can share how you deal with it ?

Good luck to you.

I am also in my 40s. Applied 300 jobs only a handful of interviews. Until now no news. Pmets are facing a really hard time in this current economy. I suggest you keep your job with u until u find a really solid company.

And dun bother applying govt jobs, its even more challenging to get in unless you are a local grad with gd merits.
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I agree with the rest, economic is not doing very well better to keep your current job until you sign the job offer with another company, no harm sending resume be it Pte or Govt, you will never know. I'm just few years younger than you and also has this worry but luckily I found a cs job, many ppl do say cs job not that great except pay but which job is easy, even you start a business also not easy. Just take it one step at a time and progress from there, don't be shy to ask question even that person is younger than you. Learning is a life time journey.

Good luck in your future endeavour
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I agree with the rest, economic is not doing very well better to keep your current job until you sign the job offer with another company, no harm sending resume be it Pte or Govt, you will never know. I'm just few years younger than you and also has this worry but luckily I found a cs job, many ppl do say cs job not that great except pay but which job is easy, even you start a business also not easy. Just take it one step at a time and progress from there, don't be shy to ask question even that person is younger than you. Learning is a life time journey.

Good luck in your future endeavour
Congrats to u on finding a CS job. May I know if u r a local grad? which industry may i ask? Are you moving from a pte to cs? any downgrade in salary, responsibilities (or title)?


Jus my opinion to TS, dun take it so hard and then look towards starting your own business in this current economy. The situation is brutal at the moment. Unless you have seed funding or some sort of financial boost/assistance, a mid career (40s age group) biz startup is most certainly to wipe out your savings with limited years to bounce back in 10 years time.

All the best guys/gals.
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u are 40, u got a degree from unisa (quite reputable uni), and you are paid the same salary as a uni fresh grad (3.6k is the average or a little higher than average this year)?

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u are 40, u got a degree from unisa (quite reputable uni), and you are paid the same salary as a uni fresh grad (3.6k is the average or a little higher than average this year)?

???
Yup,

My paid is 3.6k
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Just keep sending resumes. In my industry, those 40s still resigning and jumping into another company. Citing my ex colleague as an example, single mother with a teenage daughter, when she came to our company, she was already about 45 years old? worked 2 or 3 months not happy, resigned and jump to another company. So really depends on your industry you are working in as well. Bottomline is still , secure a job first before you tender. Your reasons for leaving you current job are very valid.
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Just keep sending resumes. In my industry, those 40s still resigning and jumping into another company. Citing my ex colleague as an example, single mother with a teenage daughter, when she came to our company, she was already about 45 years old? worked 2 or 3 months not happy, resigned and jump to another company. So really depends on your industry you are working in as well. Bottomline is still , secure a job first before you tender. Your reasons for leaving you current job are very valid.
You are missing TS point totally. Jumping around is easy especially if you just mass sending CVs without bothering about job and pay development.

TS wants to make 2 major leaps: 1) From a salesman to a manager leading a team 2) A salary increase that commensurate this much bigger responsibility.

This sort of jump at his age is nowhere as easy as you depict. I agree with finding a job before quitting though.
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