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20-01-2016, 08:25 AM
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Originally Posted by ngkj
my friend only dip in eng.
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a dip and a deg increment definitely different! if you intend to go the deg route. please look for advise from those degree ones and not keep hearing what dip had to say. after all they are 2 different kind of starting path. if you keep hear the dip say and keep compare then it will be a nv ending.
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20-01-2016, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by ngkj
Most of them encourage me to study now as if i start working and got used to it,studying would be tough for me and also of course will have no more monthly income. Even part time will be tiring as u have to study and work at the same time.For me, i wouldnt mine part time despite more tiring but the problem is i dont really know what to study after hearing so much.In the past i would want to continue with a eng degree,but after hearing i tho to myself bus would be great too?
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i work for 4 years after poly and go back take a full time degree on y own cost. definitely you can save enough for your years in uni. i do have older classmates who didnt study for 8-10 years and they scored 1st class or 2nd upper. honestly, why people would encourage you to work first is because firstly you obviously dont know what you want. instead of analysing the trend you keep seek help from people who are not in the degree path. secondly, you are rather immatured now, today if im telling you go study A you will earn alot then for sure you will go without looking at the point that whether you can make it or not. Maturity do help you in terms of studying, you will put in more effort in it. lastly, if you think business is good then go take a business course then down the road you see how you fair.
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20-01-2016, 10:48 AM
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hello boy, go and submit your application first then talk! see you can get into which one first! you talk so much later one reject you how?
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20-01-2016, 01:22 PM
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As a recent 2015 local uni grad, i can safely say you will not even get interviews at most companies in Singapore. You will find yourself jobless for 6 months or more for a private degree holder. You will end up in a local SME, getting about 2.2k to 2.4k at this present market outlook. only about 400+ more than a dip holder.
im a EEE grad. even i was jobless for 6 months. my advise is dont do both biz and engineering deg now unless its local uni. just go find a company that you like to work in as a dip holder. learn your trade. afterwhich, if you still think the job and industry is suitable, then depending on your job scope, then go for a pte degree you think is more beneficial.
in my opinion, getting a pte deg now is totally worthless. i rather you spend 3 years getting exp. the rest depends on your performance and capability.
and engineering is much more difficult than biz as its logical and maths based but biz is only common sense and some technical terms that you need to know.
thats all from me being brutally direct.
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20-01-2016, 01:58 PM
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I dont wish to get into this debate as i dont think there is anything useful.
However, i do wish to point out that i DISAGREE on such generic statements like "engineering is much more difficult than biz as its logical and maths based but biz is only common sense and some technical terms that you need to know."
It reeks of arrogance especially since you are stating you are from an engineering background.
Maybe you care to logically explain why the highest paid fresh grads are from business schools ? Such companies must not have a lot of common sense right ?
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
As a recent 2015 local uni grad, i can safely say you will not even get interviews at most companies in Singapore. You will find yourself jobless for 6 months or more for a private degree holder. You will end up in a local SME, getting about 2.2k to 2.4k at this present market outlook. only about 400+ more than a dip holder.
im a EEE grad. even i was jobless for 6 months. my advise is dont do both biz and engineering deg now unless its local uni. just go find a company that you like to work in as a dip holder. learn your trade. afterwhich, if you still think the job and industry is suitable, then depending on your job scope, then go for a pte degree you think is more beneficial.
in my opinion, getting a pte deg now is totally worthless. i rather you spend 3 years getting exp. the rest depends on your performance and capability.
and engineering is much more difficult than biz as its logical and maths based but biz is only common sense and some technical terms that you need to know.
thats all from me being brutally direct.
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20-01-2016, 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted by lazyplane
I dont wish to get into this debate as i dont think there is anything useful.
However, i do wish to point out that i DISAGREE on such generic statements like "engineering is much more difficult than biz as its logical and maths based but biz is only common sense and some technical terms that you need to know."
It reeks of arrogance especially since you are stating you are from an engineering background.
Maybe you care to logically explain why the highest paid fresh grads are from business schools ? Such companies must not have a lot of common sense right ?
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I'm quite curious where you got the data that highest paid fresh grads are from business? Straits Times?? LOL!
If you google on the internet and look for which course that is the most difficult, engineering tops it.
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20-01-2016, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lazyplane
I dont wish to get into this debate as i dont think there is anything useful.
However, i do wish to point out that i DISAGREE on such generic statements like "engineering is much more difficult than biz as its logical and maths based but biz is only common sense and some technical terms that you need to know."
It reeks of arrogance especially since you are stating you are from an engineering background.
Maybe you care to logically explain why the highest paid fresh grads are from business schools ? Such companies must not have a lot of common sense right ?
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well perhaps my point is not clear enough. it is INDEED more difficult to STUDY engineering than biz. its a fact. its not arrogance. im not talking about the job itself. and not going to debate you on that.
and your point stating biz people earn more. that is also a fact. im not going to deny that. and you should know why without me elaborating. its just economics and market at work. it does not nullify the statement that made you so riled up.
maybe you should not be so defensive. good day
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20-01-2016, 02:31 PM
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Originally Posted by lazyplane
I dont wish to get into this debate as i dont think there is anything useful.
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You can't even stay logical in a single sentence. Claim you don't want to debate as there is nothing useful. Then followed by a long tirade bitching about exactly the same thing.
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20-01-2016, 02:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lazyplane
I dont wish to get into this debate as i dont think there is anything useful.
However, i do wish to point out that i DISAGREE on such generic statements like "engineering is much more difficult than biz as its logical and maths based but biz is only common sense and some technical terms that you need to know."
It reeks of arrogance especially since you are stating you are from an engineering background.
Maybe you care to logically explain why the highest paid fresh grads are from business schools ? Such companies must not have a lot of common sense right ?
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oh BTW, the poster here are asking about pte business or engineering degree. Dont put him in the wrong concept when i guess you are mentioning a local fresh grad? and kindly let him know which business course are getting the highest pay. i think he needs it.
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20-01-2016, 02:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
I'm quite curious where you got the data that highest paid fresh grads are from business? Straits Times?? LOL!
If you google on the internet and look for which course that is the most difficult, engineering tops it.
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and yes haha. i do not know where he got his data from. but i will take his word for it and agree with him with the benefit of the doubt.
using my small sample size. i have many friends getting about between 3.6k to 4.5k. and yes all fresh grads. all same engineering background as me. maybe he can tell me how much a fresh grad for biz get
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