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19-10-2015, 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
wake up.
you and your parents voted for the open legs mass immigration policy in SG.
you will struggle to find roles in SG as these roles are now mostly taken up by indians/chinese/pinoy FTs with lesser qualification that yourself - in fact whether they are qualified or not is another issue all together.
dont believe me, try coming back and experience it for yourself. good luck.
pls remember your experience 4yrs later
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You are sorely mistaken to be under the impression that persons from strong physics and mathematics programs are dim a dozen in the society. Physics and mathematics are the few subset of the knowledge field where not only tremendous amount hard work and dedication is required but a certain degree of talent. Hard work alone gets one nowhere in this field.
It is naive to conceive hard work gets one anywhere.
Such simplistic view worthy the label of a simpleton.
It is in my observation there exists a tendency for Singaporeans to conflate politics with areas of discussions. You annoy me.
In particular, in this argument, a non-sequitur. Humans aren't particularly intelligent. A pity world war two hadn't wiped more of us out. A greater pity your ancestors were not wiped out in the gas chambers of the third reich.
For the record, my parents do not vote. Neither have I. I hold no allegiance nor loyalty to any country and more so in this highly globalised world, the notion of loyalty is meaningless.
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19-10-2015, 02:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Fermion
You are sorely mistaken to be under the impression that persons from strong physics and mathematics programs are dim a dozen in the society. Physics and mathematics are the few subset of the knowledge field where not only tremendous amount hard work and dedication is required but a certain degree of talent. Hard work alone gets one nowhere in this field.
It is naive to conceive hard work gets one anywhere.
Such simplistic view worthy the label of a simpleton.
It is in my observation there exists a tendency for Singaporeans to conflate politics with areas of discussions. You annoy me.
In particular, in this argument, a non-sequitur. Humans aren't particularly intelligent. A pity world war two hadn't wiped more of us out. A greater pity your ancestors were not wiped out in the gas chambers of the third reich.
For the record, my parents do not vote. Neither have I. I hold no allegiance nor loyalty to any country and more so in this highly globalised world, the notion of loyalty is meaningless.
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U can get a job outside of academia or research then say. U sound exactly like one of those weirdos I see in my university, great in intellectual but lack basic social skills. The corporate world, especially banking and finance, dont need rocket scientist. They need ppl with soft skills.
And u may think ur skill is highly transferable, but unless u back it up with something u built that is relevant to the corporate world or have relevant work/internship exp, u r just another teacher-to-be in Singapore.
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19-10-2015, 03:55 PM
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Originally Posted by Fermion
You are sorely mistaken to be under the impression that persons from strong physics and mathematics programs are dim a dozen in the society. Physics and mathematics are the few subset of the knowledge field where not only tremendous amount hard work and dedication is required but a certain degree of talent. Hard work alone gets one nowhere in this field.
It is naive to conceive hard work gets one anywhere.
Such simplistic view worthy the label of a simpleton.
It is in my observation there exists a tendency for Singaporeans to conflate politics with areas of discussions. You annoy me.
In particular, in this argument, a non-sequitur. Humans aren't particularly intelligent. A pity world war two hadn't wiped more of us out. A greater pity your ancestors were not wiped out in the gas chambers of the third reich.
For the record, my parents do not vote. Neither have I. I hold no allegiance nor loyalty to any country and more so in this highly globalised world, the notion of loyalty is meaningless.
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dont be so naive.
wake up.
you sit there and look out with your rose tinted glasses. keep thinking that way.
come back and face reality and then open your mouth. empty vessels speak the loudest no?
singapore is flooded with indians/pinoys/chinese with degrees in physics/mathematics/chemistry/engineering, in every sector, from every university in the world.
dont assume that just because you spent some time overseas, you've "made it".
grow up.
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19-10-2015, 04:53 PM
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I came in to seek a simple answer to a rather simple question.
There is an inherent distaste in the culture of bashing in Singapore. Looking around this forum only confirm this.
Social skills? What good are humans. Are they not nothing more than proxy. Nothing more than chess pieces on a chess board.
You speak of social skills as though it is highly prized. It is highly prized among those who requires their egos to be stroked.
If you have been living and working in Singapore, I suggest stepping out and and witnessing how highly prized candidates with strong quantitative skills are viewed. In the states and in the European unions, candidates with strong quantitative skills from fields as such engineering, mathematics, computer science and physics find employment across all areas and especially in the technical and quantitative side of the finance sector.
Even persons with actuarial skills are highly prized.
It is only in Singapore you see candidates graduating with finance degrees with weak quantitative skills and hoping to enter the finance sector where 'real' work is being done.
I have long realise such issues to be unique to the economic landscape in Singapore. Far too few sectors but with a glut of graduates in the same field; business, accounting, law and engineering.
Make it? Only Singaporeans are holding on to the mentality of 'making it'. To me, 'making it' does not exists in my worldview. You either enjoy what you're doing or you slog your miserable life for money.
Terrible bashing culture in Singapore. I used to sympathise with Singaporeans but these days you people disgust me and it certainly is in my hope that Singaporeans face more competition to their demise. A necessary evil is pertinent.
It is only in this tiny island that one sees persons unwilling to move abroad to sell their skills.
All these meaningless bashing and competition. I live my life fine abroad knowing the industries and sector abroad are far more diverse than what is in Singapore and am willing to sell my skills abroad where there is a global shortage of persons with STEM skills.
You fear foreign competition. If you do, you take your skills abroad to where there is a shortage to sell them.
In 20 years, you ought to fear automation of jobs.
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19-10-2015, 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
dont be so naive.
wake up.
you sit there and look out with your rose tinted glasses. keep thinking that way.
come back and face reality and then open your mouth. empty vessels speak the loudest no?
singapore is flooded with indians/pinoys/chinese with degrees in physics/mathematics/chemistry/engineering, in every sector, from every university in the world.
dont assume that just because you spent some time overseas, you've "made it".
grow up.
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You sound as though you are in great pain.
I suggest you punch a lead through your head. It will be painless.
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19-10-2015, 05:52 PM
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Look at you, Mr STEM genius, getting so wound up by a few forum posts from some anonymous trolls. All that coming from a kid who hasn't decided his final year specialisation, studying overseas with his parent's money. Read through some of your own posts and realise how pretentious and shallow you come across. Or well, get angry and make more wild sweeping claims about things you do not know much about. I hope that you use a different method in your scientific endeavors.
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19-10-2015, 05:56 PM
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It is wrong to generalise the sentiments expressed by a single poster to the whole of Singapore. (The government of the day did win the election with a bigger mandate afterall) There is also no need to sink to that level of argument as to wish ill on a whole population of people not connected to this short exchange of opposing views.
It reflects on your maturity and thought level.
I was reading your post and was about to offer some suggestions but I concluded it will be a waste of my time.
But at least, I hope that you will be mature enough to take what I wrote above as feedback to reflect on.
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Originally Posted by Fermion
I came in to seek a simple answer to a rather simple question.
There is an inherent distaste in the culture of bashing in Singapore. Looking around this forum only confirm this.
Social skills? What good are humans. Are they not nothing more than proxy. Nothing more than chess pieces on a chess board.
You speak of social skills as though it is highly prized. It is highly prized among those who requires their egos to be stroked.
If you have been living and working in Singapore, I suggest stepping out and and witnessing how highly prized candidates with strong quantitative skills are viewed. In the states and in the European unions, candidates with strong quantitative skills from fields as such engineering, mathematics, computer science and physics find employment across all areas and especially in the technical and quantitative side of the finance sector.
Even persons with actuarial skills are highly prized.
It is only in Singapore you see candidates graduating with finance degrees with weak quantitative skills and hoping to enter the finance sector where 'real' work is being done.
I have long realise such issues to be unique to the economic landscape in Singapore. Far too few sectors but with a glut of graduates in the same field; business, accounting, law and engineering.
Make it? Only Singaporeans are holding on to the mentality of 'making it'. To me, 'making it' does not exists in my worldview. You either enjoy what you're doing or you slog your miserable life for money.
Terrible bashing culture in Singapore. I used to sympathise with Singaporeans but these days you people disgust me and it certainly is in my hope that Singaporeans face more competition to their demise. A necessary evil is pertinent.
It is only in this tiny island that one sees persons unwilling to move abroad to sell their skills.
All these meaningless bashing and competition. I live my life fine abroad knowing the industries and sector abroad are far more diverse than what is in Singapore and am willing to sell my skills abroad where there is a global shortage of persons with STEM skills.
You fear foreign competition. If you do, you take your skills abroad to where there is a shortage to sell them.
In 20 years, you ought to fear automation of jobs.
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19-10-2015, 06:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
It is wrong to generalise the sentiments expressed by a single poster to the whole of Singapore. (The government of the day did win the election with a bigger mandate afterall) There is also no need to sink to that level of argument as to wish ill on a whole population of people not connected to this short exchange of opposing views.
It reflects on your maturity and thought level.
I was reading your post and was about to offer some suggestions but I concluded it will be a waste of my time.
But at least, I hope that you will be mature enough to take what I wrote above as feedback to reflect on.
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How is the government related to my thread? I have only concluded as an independent observer in my years abroad Singaporeans enjoy playing the blaming game and politicising every issues.
Were you across the table from me, you'll be on your mental guard instead of thinking I'm pretentious.
Thread no longer serves it's purpose.
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19-10-2015, 07:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Look at you, Mr STEM genius, getting so wound up by a few forum posts from some anonymous trolls. All that coming from a kid who hasn't decided his final year specialisation, studying overseas with his parent's money. Read through some of your own posts and realise how pretentious and shallow you come across. Or well, get angry and make more wild sweeping claims about things you do not know much about. I hope that you use a different method in your scientific endeavors.
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This is my last post.
Let's not play games. This isn't a case of getting one's ego bruise. It's about engaging in rational conservation.
How is one being undecided on their specialisation an issue?
This is a case of me wanting to do both but restricted to only one. University, is a place for me to learn. It isn't some get-rich fast track scheme that I see many Singaporeans engaging in.
I've seen how the economic landscape in Singapore and abroad evolve and I chart my plan accordingly.
Down to personal level, the name of the game is this:
I can be extremely horrible. How mean I am depends on how much of a lesson I think the person needs.
Put it this way, I've no issue encouraging my enemies to take their life, should it arise.
Life is cheap to me. I do not appreciate life.
Take it for what it is.
Last edited by Fermion; 19-10-2015 at 07:05 PM.
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19-10-2015, 07:44 PM
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My advice for you is not to return to Singapore.
As you have already seen for yourself, Singapore is littered with morons like the posters you have interacted with. Good luck!
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