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Type of Scheme
 

Are there different types of scheme other than MSO, ESO, what others scheme there are?

Technical Support Scheme, ...

I read that enter in as a diploma holder will be under div 2 (mso), is it true? and able to share the expected salary of a MSO for a male with NS, fresh poly grad?

Is depend on the scheme, each ministry/ statboard might has a different scheme and pay scale.

In depend on which ministries or statboard you enter.

Not all statboard offer MSO scheme.

ahh i see. actually i am looking at these positions in CPF; executive (education schemes), investigation officer (recovery) just to name a few.

any insight to it?

Executive Officers (EOs) are support roles. Lowest rank in the department.

Div 2 (Non Degree Position)
EO > HEO > SEO

Div 1 (Degree Position)
SE > AM > Mgr > Snr Mgr > AD > DD > Dir > SDir > ...

If your job title indicate "Officer" meaning you are Support Role.

This is the reason in statboard their CEO are call CE. They drop the word officer, as CE are not support role.

Do not mislead by Job title, they might sound big but when it end with officer, meaning you are support role.

Example: Principal Executive Service Officer = Customer Service Counter Staff

yup, I understand that, and if i am to apply as a diploma holder, i would be in the support role.

The key word here is put in your full heart to do your best to support whatever job assigned/ dedicated to you.

There is nothing much to prepare.

any insight to the salary scale?

As stated above, it is depend on which M/ SB you enter and the experience you can contribute to the organization.

Each M/ SB has their owns scheme and scale.

Can anyone share more about the combine degree and non-degree scheme?

Understand that there are some changes to the current not degree scheme.

Bumps for this qn.

Example of combine track. Bef & Aft:


Before Combine Track:

MSO: EO > HEO > SEO

MXO: SE > AM > > M > SM > AD > SAD > DD > Dir > SDir



Combined Track:

Executive > SE > AM > M > SM > AD > SAD > DD > Dir > SDir


all MSO title up by one rank, EO renamed as Executive, HEO = AM, ...ect

is there div 2 officer being offered pay range of around 3k+?
i just obtained my part-time from unisim (passed with merit), however i was being offered 3k+ for a div 2 officer role and i guess it's mainly because to my past relevant experiences. I was from private sector previously.

in fact div 2 is considered as at diploma level. will there be difficulty to join private sector if i were to take up this offer and leave 3 years later?

pls reject the offer. u have a DEGREE.

u are supposed to be under division 1. don't let the management undercut u.

really undercut me ah? but div 2 pay wont hit 3k+ i guess?

i been job hunt for close to 4 months, and yup this role is really like a rojak support role. I was thinking to gain experience and move on to private sector after 2-3 years. the job title in fact is xx executive, and my concern is will private sector see me as executive or non-executive from the previous role itself?

this role is actually a non-exec role in stat board, senior officer can then be considered as exec role i guess.

U can ask the hr whether its a div 1 or div 2 job. Like the previous poster says, u have a degree, u will regret joining as a div 2.

im the poster from #17.

u paid 15k to 30k SGD for a DEGREE and u are willing to be employed as a DIVISION 2 officer to do sh|t / support work?

the sh|t work isnt tough / difficult but u have to listen to the orders of the management.
and most of the time, management in the civil service are pretty slow n inefficient.
why would u even take n waste your degree then?

and btw if u dont know, almost all div 2 officer jobs are dead end, whether ppl want to admit it...

however if u were to join as DIVISION 1 OFFICER, i can guarantee u that u will earn at least 5K SGD per mth within your first 5 years unless u fk it up big time...

Yup true. Actually I felt shortchanged, I just started the job a week ago n happened to saw my job grade under div 2. I don't intend to stay long, at most 2 years n den go back private sector. Coz I did a industry switch from IT to finance. Had a diploma in IT, just obtained degree in finance.

Felt there was misrepresentation in the word xx executive when advertised on jobs ad.

Everything was too late now :(

The yearly increment and performance bonus also diff for div 1 and div 2.. even tough u start off at 3k+, u will find it hard to reach 4k if every year increment only abt $100.. do u know that for div 1, they enter mx13 after one year if nothing go wrong will promote to mx12.. and this one time increment they will be getting plus $500.. thats y join div 1 more perks.. plus ur not bottom of food chain.. div 2 is like slavery job, cos i also div 2.. everything also do...

im the same poster from #17 and #20.

what the above guy typed is 100% correct. mx13 if pass probation n emplaced on perm scheme to mx12 will get pay rise of at least $400 upwards.

oh btw, for division 2 officers, it's technically almost impossible to earn 60k per annum before the age of 35 years old (HARSH TRUTH). and the annual increment of div 2 officers ranges from $100 to $130.

That's sad to know but with little experience, i can't choose to be in div 1 even I'm armed with degree. I just hope to stay solid 3 years to gain experience, and move on private sector. Currently I'm in investment relevant role.

Just curious, they offer u 3k+.. are u now an mx14?, cause i know mx14 pay ceiling is abt max $3.2k

if you take suss pt degree while working in cs got chance for promotion to div 1?

No.. u still have to go through normal interview with other candidates when u want take up div 1 post.. does not mean got degree auto promote to div 1.. cause if u now mx14 theres no double promote to mx12 just because of the degree.

can no problem. transfer of service quite common in cs.

if div 2 average increment is around $100 - $130, what is div 1 average increment?. I recently just got promoted from div 2 to div 1, so i am curious to know what will the increment be roughly like in div 1.

The increment is based on your scheme, whether MX, MSO and at which grade.. Div 1 and 2 are just general tiers..