Roles in accenture singapore

Originally Posted by Unregistered

June cycle coming, praying not be be PIP-ed

Another year, another batch of backlogs

There were never meant to be any promotion isn't it?

The company is just bluffing us to work even harder

Hey not sure if anyone is going to read this but recent acn departee here. I joined acn in end july of 2022 via TAP and I left in early Oct last year as an SA with 1 accelerated promotion. Here are some of the key factors why i left, and i am absolutely glad i did.

You can think of it as me using this platform to close this chapter in my life, or maybe i'm just another **** stirrer but i have removed all personal identifiers either way. I'm not going to focus on the trauma (883 pages from everyone should suffice) but what i felt were key reasons, not in any order.

caveat that i'm not gonna spend too much time editing this so apologies if it comes off looking as a verbal diarrhoea cause it's quite top of mind.

1. Let's start from the quality of the mangement. It's pretty evident many of the managers and upwards are incompetent in their domain areas that they are paid so well for. They cannot provide clarity, guidance or context and quite frankly speaking it's abit embarassing when our clients watch them squirm. Not only is it a serious cost bloat but many meetings are inconclusive or cursory with unrealistic expectations to deliver quality within impossible timelines just for show and to smoke our clients. Almost always, nothing is resolved and the working team loses sleep and personal time because we are rushed to put up a show instead of actually moving towards delivery. I don't even have to get started on many of their inability to defend against scope creep.

2. On that same vein, I felt like an overglorified punching bag and overworked nanny to alot of incompetent developers. I was in the S&C pod but i was involved in afew delivery projects and afew BDs and the quality of many of the foreign developers are really CMI. I will PC here and say that my personal experience has cast many of them in a bad light but an attitude of overpromising, underdelivering and simply not giving a sh*t about your professional ethics while leeching off the company doing nothing eventually leads to projects combusting. I don't think it's something any of you reading here find foreign at all considering the landscape of ongoing projects .

3. This one is a little more personal but i felt like i've not learned much in the time i was in Accenture. I joined this great company (and in many aspects, it still is!) to learn about how some of the tech in this world can be implemented but the bulk of my BAU is learning how to smoke clients to buy more or put out fires that stem from incompetency. I've read afew emotionally charged comments about how we should upskill on our own time (if any, considering if you are on insane projects) but realistically ask yourself if that's a sustainable or healthy strategy of a company that claims to invest in it's people?

4. The balatant disrepect for you as an employee during your personal time (leaves,MC, etc).

I'm not going to into the more business aspects of the company that has a definite impact in many of our lives feeling like a pressure cooker such as under resourcing but again that shouldn't be a surpise. Ever since i've resigned, I've moved in-house for a way smaller firm. I willingly accepted a parity pay cause i still consider myself young and the opportunity cost of not leaving Acn to learn more will build up fast beyond money. The learning curve is steep cause i took on a manager role, the bosses have sky high standards but they draw hard lines where it matters to me. Bonus is that i lost all the weight i've gained and my bald spots are healing hahaha.


FINAL THOUGHTS I PROMISE : I know the market is fcken terrible now and i too had many sleepless nights because i felt like i was in despair. I don't know your personal situation (finances, ambitions, circumstances, etc) and I'm not going to give the tasteless "quit la you signed up what" remarks i've seen across this thread. I do apologise if i've somehow projected this idea that "i'm better than" because it's not my intention. I read through all 700 ish page looking for guidance because i was so scared back then. If it's your decision to defend and bet on this firm's sucess in the long run, then we should all support that too.

This firm makes monsters of all of us and i hope you know that all that anger and bitterness doesn't have to be a reality in our very short lives. Wishing you all the best and hoping to put some positivity on this thread.

Originally Posted by ex acn and happier

Hey not sure if anyone is going to read this but recent acn departee here. I joined acn in end july of 2022 via TAP and I left in early Oct last year as an SA with 1 accelerated promotion. Here are some of the key factors why i left, and i am absolutely glad i did.

You can think of it as me using this platform to close this chapter in my life, or maybe i'm just another **** stirrer but i have removed all personal identifiers either way. I'm not going to focus on the trauma (883 pages from everyone should suffice) but what i felt were key reasons, not in any order.

caveat that i'm not gonna spend too much time editing this so apologies if it comes off looking as a verbal diarrhoea cause it's quite top of mind.

1. Let's start from the quality of the mangement. It's pretty evident many of the managers and upwards are incompetent in their domain areas that they are paid so well for. They cannot provide clarity, guidance or context and quite frankly speaking it's abit embarassing when our clients watch them squirm. Not only is it a serious cost bloat but many meetings are inconclusive or cursory with unrealistic expectations to deliver quality within impossible timelines just for show and to smoke our clients. Almost always, nothing is resolved and the working team loses sleep and personal time because we are rushed to put up a show instead of actually moving towards delivery. I don't even have to get started on many of their inability to defend against scope creep.

2. On that same vein, I felt like an overglorified punching bag and overworked nanny to alot of incompetent developers. I was in the S&C pod but i was involved in afew delivery projects and afew BDs and the quality of many of the foreign developers are really CMI. I will PC here and say that my personal experience has cast many of them in a bad light but an attitude of overpromising, underdelivering and simply not giving a sh*t about your professional ethics while leeching off the company doing nothing eventually leads to projects combusting. I don't think it's something any of you reading here find foreign at all considering the landscape of ongoing projects .

3. This one is a little more personal but i felt like i've not learned much in the time i was in Accenture. I joined this great company (and in many aspects, it still is!) to learn about how some of the tech in this world can be implemented but the bulk of my BAU is learning how to smoke clients to buy more or put out fires that stem from incompetency. I've read afew emotionally charged comments about how we should upskill on our own time (if any, considering if you are on insane projects) but realistically ask yourself if that's a sustainable or healthy strategy of a company that claims to invest in it's people?

4. The balatant disrepect for you as an employee during your personal time (leaves,MC, etc).

I'm not going to into the more business aspects of the company that has a definite impact in many of our lives feeling like a pressure cooker such as under resourcing but again that shouldn't be a surpise. Ever since i've resigned, I've moved in-house for a way smaller firm. I willingly accepted a parity pay cause i still consider myself young and the opportunity cost of not leaving Acn to learn more will build up fast beyond money. The learning curve is steep cause i took on a manager role, the bosses have sky high standards but they draw hard lines where it matters to me. Bonus is that i lost all the weight i've gained and my bald spots are healing hahaha.


FINAL THOUGHTS I PROMISE : I know the market is fcken terrible now and i too had many sleepless nights because i felt like i was in despair. I don't know your personal situation (finances, ambitions, circumstances, etc) and I'm not going to give the tasteless "quit la you signed up what" remarks i've seen across this thread. I do apologise if i've somehow projected this idea that "i'm better than" because it's not my intention. I read through all 700 ish page looking for guidance because i was so scared back then. If it's your decision to defend and bet on this firm's sucess in the long run, then we should all support that too.

This firm makes monsters of all of us and i hope you know that all that anger and bitterness doesn't have to be a reality in our very short lives. Wishing you all the best and hoping to put some positivity on this thread.

vaild rant, hope u find something u like

Originally Posted by ex acn and happier

Hey not sure if anyone is going to read this but recent acn departee here. I joined acn in end july of 2022 via TAP and I left in early Oct last year as an SA with 1 accelerated promotion. Here are some of the key factors why i left, and i am absolutely glad i did.

You can think of it as me using this platform to close this chapter in my life, or maybe i'm just another **** stirrer but i have removed all personal identifiers either way. I'm not going to focus on the trauma (883 pages from everyone should suffice) but what i felt were key reasons, not in any order.

caveat that i'm not gonna spend too much time editing this so apologies if it comes off looking as a verbal diarrhoea cause it's quite top of mind.

1. Let's start from the quality of the mangement. It's pretty evident many of the managers and upwards are incompetent in their domain areas that they are paid so well for. They cannot provide clarity, guidance or context and quite frankly speaking it's abit embarassing when our clients watch them squirm. Not only is it a serious cost bloat but many meetings are inconclusive or cursory with unrealistic expectations to deliver quality within impossible timelines just for show and to smoke our clients. Almost always, nothing is resolved and the working team loses sleep and personal time because we are rushed to put up a show instead of actually moving towards delivery. I don't even have to get started on many of their inability to defend against scope creep.

2. On that same vein, I felt like an overglorified punching bag and overworked nanny to alot of incompetent developers. I was in the S&C pod but i was involved in afew delivery projects and afew BDs and the quality of many of the foreign developers are really CMI. I will PC here and say that my personal experience has cast many of them in a bad light but an attitude of overpromising, underdelivering and simply not giving a sh*t about your professional ethics while leeching off the company doing nothing eventually leads to projects combusting. I don't think it's something any of you reading here find foreign at all considering the landscape of ongoing projects .

3. This one is a little more personal but i felt like i've not learned much in the time i was in Accenture. I joined this great company (and in many aspects, it still is!) to learn about how some of the tech in this world can be implemented but the bulk of my BAU is learning how to smoke clients to buy more or put out fires that stem from incompetency. I've read afew emotionally charged comments about how we should upskill on our own time (if any, considering if you are on insane projects) but realistically ask yourself if that's a sustainable or healthy strategy of a company that claims to invest in it's people?

4. The balatant disrepect for you as an employee during your personal time (leaves,MC, etc).

I'm not going to into the more business aspects of the company that has a definite impact in many of our lives feeling like a pressure cooker such as under resourcing but again that shouldn't be a surpise. Ever since i've resigned, I've moved in-house for a way smaller firm. I willingly accepted a parity pay cause i still consider myself young and the opportunity cost of not leaving Acn to learn more will build up fast beyond money. The learning curve is steep cause i took on a manager role, the bosses have sky high standards but they draw hard lines where it matters to me. Bonus is that i lost all the weight i've gained and my bald spots are healing hahaha.


FINAL THOUGHTS I PROMISE : I know the market is fcken terrible now and i too had many sleepless nights because i felt like i was in despair. I don't know your personal situation (finances, ambitions, circumstances, etc) and I'm not going to give the tasteless "quit la you signed up what" remarks i've seen across this thread. I do apologise if i've somehow projected this idea that "i'm better than" because it's not my intention. I read through all 700 ish page looking for guidance because i was so scared back then. If it's your decision to defend and bet on this firm's sucess in the long run, then we should all support that too.

This firm makes monsters of all of us and i hope you know that all that anger and bitterness doesn't have to be a reality in our very short lives. Wishing you all the best and hoping to put some positivity on this thread.

This is a very valid post, I’m also glad you managed to escape this hell hole.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Do you think u can get promoted easily? since if u promoted in client site, your cost will increase, and client might let you go?

That's the magic. You were already sold at a higher level than what you currently are

So no problem on client's side if ACN promotes you. But they won't because why bother promoting someone who continues to slog without complaint? It doesn't hurt their bottomline if they don't promote you, and they don't have to pay more as well, so they keep things status quo.

If you complain however, they will go into panic mode, because need to find people to fill your shoes, and so they will lure you in with higher bonus, or keep you priority. Heck if you complain, you may even find out you get more bonus than your peer who is as hardworking if not even more competent than you.

Thus, the fastest way to get promoted and get good bonus is to make noise. Took me 2 years to realise this. Fortunately skipped the entire backlog by finding a better paying job, and had fun rejecting the counteroffer.

I m currently working for a client, not h&ps, under their headcount. I am working in the client office

Can you all teach me, how can I get promotion easy in my project? what matter?
I used to be from H&PS


Should I ask my client in my current proj to push me for promotion?
Should I ask the SM from ACN that in client with me to push me for promotion?
Should I ask my people lead to push for my promo?

I need some support from client, but I do not know if their support itself is enough

I am oso worried I may not get any role in my current proj, that i might be force to roll off once I get promo

what can I do? I want some salary increment

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I m currently working for a client, not h&ps, under their headcount. I am working in the client office

Can you all teach me, how can I get promotion easy in my project? what matter?
I used to be from H&PS


Should I ask my client in my current proj to push me for promotion?
Should I ask the SM from ACN that in client with me to push me for promotion?
Should I ask my people lead to push for my promo?

I need some support from client, but I do not know if their support itself is enough

I am oso worried I may not get any role in my current proj, that i might be force to roll off once I get promo

what can I do? I want some salary increment

Just change job and move on with life?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

I m currently working for a client, not h&ps, under their headcount. I am working in the client office

Can you all teach me, how can I get promotion easy in my project? what matter?
I used to be from H&PS


Should I ask my client in my current proj to push me for promotion?
Should I ask the SM from ACN that in client with me to push me for promotion?
Should I ask my people lead to push for my promo?

I need some support from client, but I do not know if their support itself is enough

I am oso worried I may not get any role in my current proj, that i might be force to roll off once I get promo

what can I do? I want some salary increment

Do all 3 and clearly state that you are doing more than your level, and want to be compensated fairly

Then you have a chance for promo say in June/Dec 2026. Good luck

OR

You can do all 3, find a new job while they finally recognize how good you are, and you leave while showing them the middle finger using your fat offer...All these for way sooner than June 2026

Your choice

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Do all 3 and clearly state that you are doing more than your level, and want to be compensated fairly

Then you have a chance for promo say in June/Dec 2026. Good luck

OR

You can do all 3, find a new job while they finally recognize how good you are, and you leave while showing them the middle finger using your fat offer...All these for way sooner than June 2026

Your choice

I just want to be promoted while doing the same thing

I just want to be a level 8 doing Level 10 stuff