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Old 02-10-2022, 02:48 AM
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I think you mix up, the BA pod they market it as one of the consulting pod too. But Iím a business and integration senior analyst in this pod and No such thing as us changing to consulting development analyst. BA pod do have a couple consulting development analyst who are under the consulting track. Easiest way to see it is, if your talent segment in your contract states consulting, youíre under consulting DTE and will graduate to S&C. Basically consulting development analyst have ďconsultingĒ as their talent segment in their contract. This can also been seen in your workday, your job family is consulting. Business and integration analyst wonít be changed to consulting development analyst cos the talent segment is totally different. So please donít mix up and spread wrong info. I get it thereís a few who managed to switch DTE hence you may see them at first being business and integration analyst but managed to switch to consulting and hence they got the title as consulting Development analyst. But making this switch requires connections so not everyone can easily make the switch.
Hey man like i said, things seem to change fast for the program and in the short span of a year. Senior analyst means you one year in already. Can just do a quick look on WD and see the increase in number of consulting devt analysts in BA pod. Majority were biz and integration arch analysts before this change and this largely applies to recent new hires.

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Old 02-10-2022, 02:57 AM
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Heard the cm pod lead is S&C Managing Director and they every month have gathering, even giving presentations. They also get invited to their town halls and events for network and food and all. Like so much more opportunities than our other pods. Iím not being salty here lah but I tried to indicate that I want consulting analyst offer, hr didnít offer me. I take the tech role but I asked to be place in cm pod also kena rejected say no promises competitive and allÖare we able to just free and easy join the events they have in office hahah I mean they canít tell right?
Maybe cause pod small la easier to organise lol plus they meet monthly sure know if you CM or not

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I think you mix up, the BA pod they market it as one of the consulting pod too. But Iím a business and integration senior analyst in this pod and No such thing as us changing to consulting development analyst. BA pod do have a couple consulting development analyst who are under the consulting track. Easiest way to see it is, if your talent segment in your contract states consulting, youíre under consulting DTE and will graduate to S&C. Basically consulting development analyst have ďconsultingĒ as their talent segment in their contract. This can also been seen in your workday, your job family is consulting. Business and integration analyst wonít be changed to consulting development analyst cos the talent segment is totally different. So please donít mix up and spread wrong info. I get it thereís a few who managed to switch DTE hence you may see them at first being business and integration analyst but managed to switch to consulting and hence they got the title as consulting Development analyst. But making this switch requires connections so not everyone can easily make the switch.
Hey, like I said things do change pretty fast for the program even within a year, if you're a senior analyst i gather you've been in one year already! But you can just do a quick check on WD for people under BA pod and you can see that what used to be mostly biz and integration arch analysts is now consulting development analysts. There was indeed a change in title done recently for new hires.

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Old 02-10-2022, 03:09 AM
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Hey Iím one of the cases which you talked about. Hahaha one of my friend told me to share my experience cos he saw your post 😂 so thought may be able to help those who are curious. But just to clear the misconception ah, business and integration analyst are not being changed to consulting development analyst. Consulting development analyst are titles for analysts under consulting track, they are mainly hired to do consulting.

Background of myself is that I wasnít offered consulting when I applied for Accenture, so I just took the business and integration offer and I worked in this role for one year. Iím very fortunate to met one of the consulting lead in my project and she helped to refer me to consulting track lead. So I had to justify my reason of wanting to switch to consulting and my skills, have to interview. So I managed to switch from my previous business and integration analyst to consulting development analyst and now belong to consulting track. But itís not easy as you really need strong network and the consulting lead need to be willing to take you in. I have a few peers who tried but failed and remain in their current tech analyst.

But tbh even till now Iím still offered roles such as developer and business analyst in projects, although I switch to consulting but seem to have a difference as compared to those consulting analyst who were hired in directly into the consulting track without needing a switch. They tend to be the ones filling the consulting roles in projects. Not sure how the company segregates actually backend internally. Even when I tried applying for strategy roles in projects, I donít even get a chance to be interviewed while my friends who were originally consulting development analyst right from the start get to interview. So really think twice if itís worth the effort to make the switch from tech to consulting cos yes now I get the title but Iím not getting the roles, Iím doing the same tech roles. But I know one or two cases who came in as consulting development analyst but realise they enjoyed the tech roles more so they switch to business and integration analyst. I would say switch from consulting to business and integration is much easier as compared to switch from business and integration to consulting.

If you really want consulting analyst position, whole process is easier if get the consulting offer right from the start.. if you want to make the switch feel free to let me know Iíll see if can help you ah. But donít expect too much cos you still end up with the tech roles, they really keep the consulting roles for those who were hired directly for consulting
So let's say for the batch of tappers that onboarded in jun/jul this year, what is the proportion of consulting development analysts to business and integration analysts?
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Hey Iím one of the cases which you talked about. Hahaha one of my friend told me to share my experience cos he saw your post 😂 so thought may be able to help those who are curious. But just to clear the misconception ah, business and integration analyst are not being changed to consulting development analyst. Consulting development analyst are titles for analysts under consulting track, they are mainly hired to do consulting.

Background of myself is that I wasnít offered consulting when I applied for Accenture, so I just took the business and integration offer and I worked in this role for one year. Iím very fortunate to met one of the consulting lead in my project and she helped to refer me to consulting track lead. So I had to justify my reason of wanting to switch to consulting and my skills, have to interview. So I managed to switch from my previous business and integration analyst to consulting development analyst and now belong to consulting track. But itís not easy as you really need strong network and the consulting lead need to be willing to take you in. I have a few peers who tried but failed and remain in their current tech analyst.

But tbh even till now Iím still offered roles such as developer and business analyst in projects, although I switch to consulting but seem to have a difference as compared to those consulting analyst who were hired in directly into the consulting track without needing a switch. They tend to be the ones filling the consulting roles in projects. Not sure how the company segregates actually backend internally. Even when I tried applying for strategy roles in projects, I donít even get a chance to be interviewed while my friends who were originally consulting development analyst right from the start get to interview. So really think twice if itís worth the effort to make the switch from tech to consulting cos yes now I get the title but Iím not getting the roles, Iím doing the same tech roles. But I know one or two cases who came in as consulting development analyst but realise they enjoyed the tech roles more so they switch to business and integration analyst. I would say switch from consulting to business and integration is much easier as compared to switch from business and integration to consulting.

If you really want consulting analyst position, whole process is easier if get the consulting offer right from the start.. if you want to make the switch feel free to let me know Iíll see if can help you ah. But donít expect too much cos you still end up with the tech roles, they really keep the consulting roles for those who were hired directly for consulting
Thanks for sharing. What kind of consulting work were you expecting? Cos from my experience those assigned as consulting development analyst majority are doing change management
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Old 02-10-2022, 11:41 AM
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So let's say for the batch of tappers that onboarded in jun/jul this year, what is the proportion of consulting development analysts to business and integration analysts?
Every batch they intake, itís only around 10 consulting development analysts. For myself in July this year, my batch only had 6 consulting development analyst.
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Thanks for sharing. What kind of consulting work were you expecting? Cos from my experience those assigned as consulting development analyst majority are doing change management
In tech projects or system implementation projects which is basically all projects in the tech space, they need change management in the project. Thatís why tech analysts in such projects only see consulting analysts doing change management. But consulting in S&C comprises 6 sub sections (can see on website), change management is one of them. Consulting analysts by default should be in consulting or strategy focus projects, but cos tech/implementation projects need them so they will be park there. Youíll realised on these kind of projects, the consulting people are usually there for a while only, typically 3-6 months or max a year while the tech people will be there for 1-2 years or more. This is good and not so good for consulting analysts lah, cos they also want to be in consulting or strategy focus projects mah where thereís more consulting and strategy people, but they also need to help with tech projects for a few months, good is consulting people typically hard to be bench cos they need to be in majority of the projects. They can also take on BA or developer roles too if they want and have the skills. Usually, consulting analysts to senior analyst or new consultant will be mostly placed in the tech projects for change management, higher level with more experience got more opp to choose and pick. Same for tech and operations functions too. But regardless, the best is still be chargeable and not bench lah.
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So let's say for the batch of tappers that onboarded in jun/jul this year, what is the proportion of consulting development analysts to business and integration analysts?
The proportion really quite a big difference, simplify is ratio of 1:10. They after all need a lot of tech analyst (aka business and integration arch/delivery analyst) cos of the implementation projects. Even in projects, the business and integration analysts take up the biggest number, consulting analyst in projects are a relatively small team of usually 2-8. If itís consulting or strategy projects then the majority will be strategy people or consulting people, but such projects are smaller in scale also since itís mainly S&C people.
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Good that now everyone here is helping one another and sharing their experiences, unlike the start of the year so many salty people and trolls in this thread that start picking fights when they disagree with certain op. Letís keep this thread in this good state lah, afterall everyone is just trying to know more, so be nice and polite to one another
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Hi whatís the salary increment from analyst to senior analyst? Also is senior analyst salary of the 2 years same or second year will be more?
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