payscheme of GLCs

[Fearoftheunknown]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Are you still working in the healthcare GLCs now?
Do you think its wise for a fresh from local uni to join?
Anything you wanna share abt the career progression for the admin scheme?

I'm no longer in the healthcare industry cos my contract had ended eons ago. I find myself missing healthcare every now and then

Career progression for admin:

Executive to Senior Executive for most people. If the management thinks you have the potential, then they will groom you for asst manager. Then will promote you to manager when the time is ripe.

It's not about being a wise decision to join at an early age or not. I think it largely depends on how you react in a volatile situation, and your needs. If you work in pte sector, you run the risk of not being able to receive your annual bonus if the company is not doing well. How comfortable are you with not receiving your bonus despite slogging like a cow? One of my ex colleague shared with me that she is very scared of companies not being able to pay their employees their bonuses, and as a result she stayed in the healthcare institution for slightly more than 8 years, and she is only in her early 30s. I asked if she has the intention to work there till retirement. She said maybe. If you are the type who craves for stability and expect confirmed payouts, then maybe it is a wise decision to join at an early age. It's an iron rice bowl for the down to earth pple. It's not necessary a bad thing you know.

Originally Posted by Fearoftheunknown

I'm no longer in the healthcare industry cos my contract had ended eons ago. I find myself missing healthcare every now and then

Career progression for admin:

Executive to Senior Executive for most people. If the management thinks you have the potential, then they will groom you for asst manager. Then will promote you to manager when the time is ripe.

It's not about being a wise decision to join at an early age or not. I think it largely depends on how you react in a volatile situation, and your needs. If you work in pte sector, you run the risk of not being able to receive your annual bonus if the company is not doing well. How comfortable are you with not receiving your bonus despite slogging like a cow? One of my ex colleague shared with me that she is very scared of companies not being able to pay their employees their bonuses, and as a result she stayed in the healthcare institution for slightly more than 8 years, and she is only in her early 30s. I asked if she has the intention to work there till retirement. She said maybe. If you are the type who craves for stability and expect confirmed payouts, then maybe it is a wise decision to join at an early age. It's an iron rice bowl for the down to earth pple. It's not necessary a bad thing you know.

Thanks for the sharing. Do you know what is the average pay for the career ladder:

1) Executive
2) Senior Executive
3) Asst Manager
4) Manager

Would a manager be consider superscale by gov sector standards?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for the sharing. Do you know what is the average pay for the career ladder:

1) Executive
2) Senior Executive
3) Asst Manager
4) Manager

Would a manager be consider superscale by gov sector standards?

After Manager comes Senior Manager, then Assistant Director, then Deputy Director, then Director. Of course it may not be the same throughout the different clusters, but you get my drift.

In no way is a manager a superscale equivalent in public sector. Only when you reach Director level then its considered superscale.

Thanks for insights

May i know the pay ceiling for each rank structure.
An average performer can reach by rank?
How does the admin scheme differ from the govt MX scheme for ministry/SB?
Any advice, thanks

This is public healthcare we are looking at here.

Not sure what kind of career progression you are talking about.

2015, please wake up

Thank you

You can google for say singhealth collective agreement. The salary range of the lower ranks are in that pdf file.

Executive is under nn11 or nn12 grade

Senior executive is nn13.

nn14 and above is beyond the union jurisdiction. Therefore salary range is undisclosed. But you can map out from there.

Thank you

Originally Posted by Unregistered

This is public healthcare we are looking at here.

Not sure what kind of career progression you are talking about.

2015, please wake up

Thank you

I dunno y u say in healthcare, we cant discuss abt career progression

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Thanks for insights

May i know the pay ceiling for each rank structure.
An average performer can reach by rank?
How does the admin scheme differ from the govt MX scheme for ministry/SB?
Any advice, thanks

An average performer, if lucky, probably can reach DD level in 20 years if he/she stay in healthcare institution. Reason being there's only so few positions available.

With regards to pay ceiling, I am unable to confirm as each institution is different, and they merely mirror the public sector. But generally, they are a tad lower unless you've reached DD level and above. And of course, you can't compare apple to orange right?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

An average performer, if lucky, probably can reach DD level in 20 years if he/she stay in healthcare institution. Reason being there's only so few positions available.

With regards to pay ceiling, I am unable to confirm as each institution is different, and they merely mirror the public sector. But generally, they are a tad lower unless you've reached DD level and above. And of course, you can't compare apple to orange right?

I think this statement is way too optmistic. An average performer (C+ or equivalent) almost no chance of reaching DD in the public healthcare space in 20 years.

I used to be from CGH. If you look at the people who have stayed there long enough and currently in their early to mid 40s (i.e.~20 yrs exp), how many DDs do you see? I see about 80% of them stuck in Manager or Senior Manager equivalent ranks. Even AD there is pretty rare compared to ministries where a deg grad can probably get it by mid 30s.

Unless you are some scholar / hipo parachuteer, you need to perform above average consistenly to get your AD in 20 years. For DD you will need to be TOP performer + lots of good luck to get that in 20 years.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

An average performer, if lucky, probably can reach DD level in 20 years if he/she stay in healthcare institution. Reason being there's only so few positions available.

With regards to pay ceiling, I am unable to confirm as each institution is different, and they merely mirror the public sector. But generally, they are a tad lower unless you've reached DD level and above. And of course, you can't compare apple to orange right?

Ok thanks for insights.
If there is any more stuff you know about healthcare GLcs, please kindly share, as i keen to find out more