can/shall I still ask for more than what I filled in "expected salary" section?

[mangos47]

Hi fellas,

wanted to hear your opinion or past experience related.

I applied for a position in a statutory board and after 2 rounds of interviews their HR called me saying they are considering to bring me onboard and are working on a package. I expressed my gratitude and excitement over the phone and was told to wait for their official decision.

Now that I think of it, I feel the number I put in my application form is a bit low, for a couple of reasons.

Firstly, I applied about 3 months ago, and during these 3 months my current employer actually give me a raise of about 4%.

Secondly, the expected date that I'll be start this new job if I was offered, it'll be somewhere early next year so I'll lose my annual bonus in April, which is usually 3 months, not a small amount. Therefore I think probably I shall ask for a couple hundred more than the number I put in the application form, otherwise I'll be losing income from this job-hopping.

Thirdly, soon after I applied for the position, the hiring team put up an ad for a more senior position in the team with almost identical duty/requirement, except for one that is requiring experience leading a team, which I in fact do have such experience. I did apply for this new position as well but not sure if they are considering me for it. They asked me of project management experience and leadership during interview and I answered positively so I think maybe I shall try negotiate with them to give me that position/title.

With all those thoughts, I'm considering when they give me an offer and if it's about my provided "expected salary", maybe I'll try asking a little more than that and the possibility of giving me the more senior position. But I'd like to hear from you if any of you have successful experience raising your offer, with a statutory board, and especially, raising it to be higher than originally asked for.

A side question is, for technical role, post-graduate qualification, 9 years experience, how much raise from your previous job would you consider to be a comfortable/satisfying offer? I was told by a headhunt 15% is reasonable, but that's last year and from a headhunt so not that reliable. I have excolleague leaving for up to 30% raise but I guess that may not be common as well. So any idea what's the prevailing raise hopping to a new job, for engineering/IT sector?

many thank

Which stat board is that?

You going in as Technical Officer? New advert is for Senior Tech? Manager? etc?

How much were u offered? more details willbe easier.

bonus is prorated

Originally Posted by Unregistered

bonus is prorated

i think what OP means is bonus from current job will be lost, which is obviously an important factor why many job hopping happens early in the year instead of closing to the end.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

i think what OP means is bonus from current job will be lost, which is obviously an important factor why many job hopping happens early in the year instead of closing to the end.

Oh I see. Read wrongly.
But then I think is abit stretching to expect stat board to pay for another company's bonus jus bcos TS choose a bad timing to jump... Maybe unless TS is an extremely valuable talent... But it still dosnt sound like that's something a stat board will do.

[mangos47]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Oh I see. Read wrongly.
But then I think is abit stretching to expect stat board to pay for another company's bonus jus bcos TS choose a bad timing to jump... Maybe unless TS is an extremely valuable talent... But it still dosnt sound like that's something a stat board will do.

true. I didn't expect the lost bonus due to bad timing to be compensated by the new employer. what I intend to use as argument is the fact that I've had a very recent raise so my original expectation doesn't reflect my current expectation. And also I'd like to try convince them to consider me for the other senior position in the same team which I think I'm qualified as well.

What I want to ask is whether this kind of negotiation - to raise from my original expectation to a higher expectation - is reasonable, and has anyone been successful in doing so. What are some of the tactics that may help to achieve the goal? And when is it a better timing to bring this up, after getting their offer, or before that?

Hope to hear from someone experieced in this. Thanks

IDA?

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[mangos47]

Originally Posted by Unregistered

IDA?

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nope, but similar job function as consultant in IDA.

[in3deep]

I thought status board salary is fixed based on years of experience and is non negotiable?

Just be honest and tell your new employer that you had just gotten a pay rise and would therefore like to up your expected salary. Is this pay rise unexpected? When I apply for a new job and am asked to indicate my expected salary, I would take into account my expected pay rise in the coming year in my current job.

As for the more senior position, just tell them that you saw this job ad and would like to be considered for the position.