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Old 03-11-2014, 01:00 AM
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Hi Guys,

I just started a new job for about 3 month, working in a transportation/ logistic company. I really like my job as it is very challenging and everyday is a learning experience to me. However, there is some management issues in my company. I'm not sure whether who is at fault. But i'm required to pay fines for my workers out of my own pocket.

Before I joined this company, a worker was issued a fine and didnt pay for it as he wanted to appeal for it . But my upperstudy who already left the company didnt help to appeal for that particular case, causing the fine to escalate to quite a big amount and because of that I as the worker's new superior had to fork out my own money to settle the fine which wasnt even my fault since the fine was issued last year.

Ultimately, I still paid the fine out of my own pocket because my assistant manager told me i can claim it through my big boss. However at the end of the day, when i tried to make a claim from my big boss , he told me that its my responsibility to pay for the fine out of my own pocket since im the worker's superior. Despite him knowing that it wasnt my fault at all.

Also, before i took up this job, I heard that there were 2 guys before me who were working in my position but both of them left less than 3 months into the job. This resulted in alot of misplacement of half-done documents and paperwork. And because of the loss of some documents, i had to retrieve back those that were very important. Replacing the documents also cost me quite a fair amount of money, as those documents are from some big agencies. Again, i paid for the retrieved of documents using my own money. Again i was told that i can try to make a claim from the company. But as expected, when i tried to make the claim from my boss. I was rejected again, he told me the same thing as before saying it was my responsibility to get back those documents.

To cut my long story short, i would like to seek advice from you guys on what i should do? Should i continue working in my current job or should i find a new job?

thank you cheers!

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Old 03-11-2014, 07:06 AM
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I can understand why the 2 guys before you left. Never have I have heard that staff are made to pay for things for the company out of their own pocket. I can understand if the staff are senior executives and are paid well (eg. >$10k pm), but if they are not and made to pay for company expenses and I think it's not a good company to work for.

In my company, when we have overseas visitors, we will sometimes take them out for lunch / dinner and pay from our own pockets, as our company does not provide for this kind of expense. But this is entirely voluntary on our part, and we are senior execs.

On the other hand I have heard that companies do make staff to pay for damaging company equipment due to the staff negligence or carelessness. This is a different matter.

Leave if the pay doesn't make it worthwhile to stay and pay for all these stuff.

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Hi Guys,

I just started a new job for about 3 month, working in a transportation/ logistic company. I really like my job as it is very challenging and everyday is a learning experience to me. However, there is some management issues in my company. I'm not sure whether who is at fault. But i'm required to pay fines for my workers out of my own pocket.

Before I joined this company, a worker was issued a fine and didnt pay for it as he wanted to appeal for it . But my upperstudy who already left the company didnt help to appeal for that particular case, causing the fine to escalate to quite a big amount and because of that I as the worker's new superior had to fork out my own money to settle the fine which wasnt even my fault since the fine was issued last year.

Ultimately, I still paid the fine out of my own pocket because my assistant manager told me i can claim it through my big boss. However at the end of the day, when i tried to make a claim from my big boss , he told me that its my responsibility to pay for the fine out of my own pocket since im the worker's superior. Despite him knowing that it wasnt my fault at all.

Also, before i took up this job, I heard that there were 2 guys before me who were working in my position but both of them left less than 3 months into the job. This resulted in alot of misplacement of half-done documents and paperwork. And because of the loss of some documents, i had to retrieve back those that were very important. Replacing the documents also cost me quite a fair amount of money, as those documents are from some big agencies. Again, i paid for the retrieved of documents using my own money. Again i was told that i can try to make a claim from the company. But as expected, when i tried to make the claim from my boss. I was rejected again, he told me the same thing as before saying it was my responsibility to get back those documents.

To cut my long story short, i would like to seek advice from you guys on what i should do? Should i continue working in my current job or should i find a new job?

thank you cheers!


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Old 03-11-2014, 10:45 AM
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U earning above S$4500 ? why i ask, if you are not, u are covered by employment act.

Your company is doing some illegal under the employment act.



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Hi Guys,

I just started a new job for about 3 month, working in a transportation/ logistic company. I really like my job as it is very challenging and everyday is a learning experience to me. However, there is some management issues in my company. I'm not sure whether who is at fault. But i'm required to pay fines for my workers out of my own pocket.

Before I joined this company, a worker was issued a fine and didnt pay for it as he wanted to appeal for it . But my upperstudy who already left the company didnt help to appeal for that particular case, causing the fine to escalate to quite a big amount and because of that I as the worker's new superior had to fork out my own money to settle the fine which wasnt even my fault since the fine was issued last year.

Ultimately, I still paid the fine out of my own pocket because my assistant manager told me i can claim it through my big boss. However at the end of the day, when i tried to make a claim from my big boss , he told me that its my responsibility to pay for the fine out of my own pocket since im the worker's superior. Despite him knowing that it wasnt my fault at all.

Also, before i took up this job, I heard that there were 2 guys before me who were working in my position but both of them left less than 3 months into the job. This resulted in alot of misplacement of half-done documents and paperwork. And because of the loss of some documents, i had to retrieve back those that were very important. Replacing the documents also cost me quite a fair amount of money, as those documents are from some big agencies. Again, i paid for the retrieved of documents using my own money. Again i was told that i can try to make a claim from the company. But as expected, when i tried to make the claim from my boss. I was rejected again, he told me the same thing as before saying it was my responsibility to get back those documents.

To cut my long story short, i would like to seek advice from you guys on what i should do? Should i continue working in my current job or should i find a new job?

thank you cheers!

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from now on, accumulate so much as possible. when the fine comes, let them snowball until you are ready to resign.
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Please do not pay any further fines and think you can claim again. There is a saying, once bitten twice shy. You have been bitten twice. This company is definitely not worth working for, making you pay for things which were not your fault. Seek to reclaim back whatever you have paid so far by all means and then leave.

The departure of those two before you within such short tenure clearly explain the situation...
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