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Old 23-10-2014, 12:37 AM
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true for audit, but not so much for consulting.
Why is it so?

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Old 23-10-2014, 09:01 AM
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Why is it so?
I think the usual trend is
- to move in to higher-tier consultancies
- to start your own boutique consultancy firm
- to move into industry (client-side)

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Old 23-10-2014, 04:00 PM
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i find turnover at consultancy even higher than audit. the problem i notice is for most consutancies in PWC unless you reach a senior level, most of the work by consultant is really transactional and volumous like BPO or shared service centres.

most ppl after 1-2 years will look to join client mncs with proper career path or move on to opp that can allow them more consultancy level work.

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Old 23-10-2014, 11:22 PM
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Is it true that some men behave like a whore while looking for a job?

This friend of mine was working with Deloitte for 6k. He applied to KPMG and got an offer for 6.5k. He told KPMG "I got a counteroffer for 6.8k. Can you match that?" KPMG came back with 7100. He now turns to Deloitte and says "can you match this offer of 7.5k from KPMG?" (look at the nerves of this liar). Of course, Delotte offered him 7.8k. He told KPMG to fly kite and is doing the same work in Deloitte that he was doing all along, but instead of 6k is drawing 7.8k. KPMG has threatened to blacklist him. He is not worried.

My (guy) friends say that he is smart. My (lady) friends say that he is whorish.

Who is right?
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Old 24-10-2014, 09:14 AM
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Is it true that some men behave like a whore while looking for a job?

This friend of mine was working with Deloitte for 6k. He applied to KPMG and got an offer for 6.5k. He told KPMG "I got a counteroffer for 6.8k. Can you match that?" KPMG came back with 7100. He now turns to Deloitte and says "can you match this offer of 7.5k from KPMG?" (look at the nerves of this liar). Of course, Delotte offered him 7.8k. He told KPMG to fly kite and is doing the same work in Deloitte that he was doing all along, but instead of 6k is drawing 7.8k. KPMG has threatened to blacklist him. He is not worried.

My (guy) friends say that he is smart. My (lady) friends say that he is whorish.

Who is right?
Are you sure both Deloitte and KPMG are so stupid? If I were them (i.e. the HR person), I would ask him to show me the offer letter in black and white.

Such middleman tactic has been in use since forever - middleman tells factory he can supply 1000 tons of steel and at the same time tells steel maker he wants to place an order for 1000 tons at a slightly lower price.

But if Deloitte and KPMG are so stupid, they deserve to be ripped off by liars.
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Old 24-10-2014, 09:38 AM
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First of all, this story cannot be true. No company especially these big ones are so gullible. One time, maybe you can pull it off especially if you are the key guy doing the accounts of an important client, but to be adjusting the figures within a matter days (I supposed?) borders on fantasy and hallucinations.

Also I dont understand why you described the negotiating behaviour as whorish? What is whorish about it? Do you know the meaning of whorish?

A whore is a person who sell his body/soul for money. In the above case, he did not. He is using one company against another for his talent. On the other hand, he would be whorish if he offered to sleep with or "special services" the boss to get higher pay.

You are a b**** for posting this way.

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Is it true that some men behave like a whore while looking for a job?

This friend of mine was working with Deloitte for 6k. He applied to KPMG and got an offer for 6.5k. He told KPMG "I got a counteroffer for 6.8k. Can you match that?" KPMG came back with 7100. He now turns to Deloitte and says "can you match this offer of 7.5k from KPMG?" (look at the nerves of this liar). Of course, Delotte offered him 7.8k. He told KPMG to fly kite and is doing the same work in Deloitte that he was doing all along, but instead of 6k is drawing 7.8k. KPMG has threatened to blacklist him. He is not worried.

My (guy) friends say that he is smart. My (lady) friends say that he is whorish.

Who is right?
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Old 24-10-2014, 09:52 AM
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Are you sure both Deloitte and KPMG are so stupid? If I were them (i.e. the HR person), I would ask him to show me the offer letter in black and white.

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But if Deloitte and KPMG are so stupid, they deserve to be ripped off by liars.
I dunno about Deloitte and KPMG, but in my industry (hospitality), this practice is rampant particlarly during the holiday season when the demand for staff is very high. Even without offer letters, many guys secure a higher salalry or bonus.
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i find turnover at consultancy even higher than audit. the problem i notice is for most consutancies in PWC unless you reach a senior level, most of the work by consultant is really transactional and volumous like BPO or shared service centres.

most ppl after 1-2 years will look to join client mncs with proper career path or move on to opp that can allow them more consultancy level work.
What do you mean by that? "transactional and volumous?"
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Old 24-10-2014, 11:31 AM
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What do you mean by that? "proper career path"
I think PWC has a very well designed career movement and growth path. Employees at all levels get a chance to enhance their skills, etc.
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I think PWC has a very well designed career movement and growth path. Employees at all levels get a chance to enhance their skills, etc.
But is it worth to wait till certain period before working for them as compare to another big 4 which can start immediately
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