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Unregistered 19-12-2016 03:38 PM

Singaporeans are really slow learners, no wonder keep losing to the foreigners. Pay isn't about how good you are at data analytics or what sort of data analytics is 'better' or 'real', it is more about office politics, executive presence and connections just like any other job.

Look at your own boss or boss's boss, how many of them are actually smarter or better in the job then you are? Why are they making 3x more than you if they are not actually 3x better?

Do you really think a smart mathematician/programmer who just does his own thing and do his complex data modelling is going to earn more than an average guy who know how to do simple analysis and reporting but dam good at office politics, powerpoint and has the sponsorship of a few MDs? Maybe the smart guy started off higher, but long term wise it's the political guys who will dominate the game. Look around in your office and the answer is dam obvious.

If you really like to do fancy stuff for passion and self-esteem, please go ahead and I respect you and wish you have a good and fulfilling life. But those that keep asking about career progression, pay advancement, bonus etc. please wake up and look around you what is going on.

Your Indian and Pinoy counterparts know exactly how the game is played. If you don't want to end up 10 years down the road moaning about why you need to get scolded by a stupid idiot FT SVP who cannot even understand what you are talking about but yet is paid twice you are, then start recognizing how promotion and pay progression is done in reality in most companies.

Unregistered 20-12-2016 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 93158)
Do you really think a smart mathematician/programmer who just does his own thing and do his complex data modelling is going to earn more than an average guy who know how to do simple analysis and reporting but dam good at office politics, powerpoint and has the sponsorship of a few MDs? Maybe the smart guy started off higher, but long term wise it's the political guys who will dominate the game. Look around in your office and the answer is dam obvious.

I can't categorically say that you're wrong. But if I were to guess, what you said is applicable to 70% of the jobs out there. There are 30% of them, and I know first hand, where technicals and science is prized over politics.

Maybe you know all of finance. But to those who know, how about it. In sell side, you can win by politics. In buy side, no amount of politics is gonna save you if your PnL is negative. Trust me, I, and those in finance, will agree with me.

And how does this relate to data analytics? Back to my original point - IF the company is REALLY doing data analytics, I suspect what they are drive by is the hard science. And no politics is gonna save you if you don't know the statistics.

Unregistered 30-01-2017 11:23 PM

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