ST Electronics

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If hit the max cap salary for the grade, will there be any more increment in the following year? And if hit max cap and the bosses don't fight for your promotion even for above average appraisal, what will be the minimum increment or will there be no increment?

are u e6? what's your salary capped at?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

are u e6? what's your salary capped at?

Yes E6, 6K

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes E6, 6K

WAH KAO E6 at 6k...
I know of M1 who only 4.8k nia...

So it means M1 is not neccessary higher paid than E6 ah?

Originally Posted by Unregistered

WAH KAO E6 at 6k...
I know of M1 who only 4.8k nia...

So it means M1 is not neccessary higher paid than E6 ah?

Old scheme 4.8k? If now 4.8k abit sad. Cuz E5 average pay around 4k+ already for those old scheme convert to new scheme.

Anyway salary cap for E6 is not 6k.
SSOS cap contribution for E6 is 620.
Dont worry too much.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

WAH KAO E6 at 6k...
I know of M1 who only 4.8k nia...

So it means M1 is not neccessary higher paid than E6 ah?

Yes, because of years of service, every year increment but will have salary cap. m1 salary cap will be higher if years of service is more.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Yes, because of years of service, every year increment but will have salary cap. m1 salary cap will be higher if years of service is more.

If worked for so many years and only E6. Increment until reach cap...
Still not eligible for promotion...

Then really nothing to say already.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If worked for so many years and only E6. Increment until reach cap...
Still not eligible for promotion...

Then really nothing to say already.

My side got colleague at 58 to 62 like that either O level or Diploma, work 30+ years only E5. Already ready reach cap.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

If worked for so many years and only E6. Increment until reach cap...
Still not eligible for promotion...

Then really nothing to say already.

why not? some people don't really like to do management work at m1 and above. I have heard of people who reject promotion from E6 to m1. E6 cap at 6k+ already sufficient and comfortable for some people. Especially those people with diploma and worked their way up. 6k+ for a perm role + stable job + keep their old stock options at age 40+ or even 50+ is already a good thing for them.

some age 50+ people that i speak to, plan to retire here, house fully paid, cpf alot of money, have car and good monthly savings. their same age friends might just be retrenched or paycut recently during this covid19 period while they keep their stable jobs.

not everybody aims to or can retire at m4 or higher

Originally Posted by Unregistered

why not? some people don't really like to do management work at m1 and above. I have heard of people who reject promotion from E6 to m1. E6 cap at 6k+ already sufficient and comfortable for some people. Especially those people with diploma and worked their way up. 6k+ for a perm role + stable job + keep their old stock options at age 40+ or even 50+ is already a good thing for them.

some age 50+ people that i speak to, plan to retire here, house fully paid, cpf alot of money, have car and good monthly savings. their same age friends might just be retrenched or paycut recently during this covid19 period while they keep their stable jobs.

not everybody aims to or can retire at m4 or higher

No wonder people keep saying ST is a retirement village. It's because of this kind of thought.
In thr business world. If you don't work. Don't bring value to the company. Why keep you?

In this current age fresh grad competiting for job. Inflation. Fresh grad starting pay already 4.5k... Some even asking for 5k+ and you are content with 6k+ doing nothing.

No wonder my friend who work in ST keep saying everything is ding dong push here push there. Nobody want to do. All want to siam work. Cause all just want to twite with 6k do nothing..

No skills.

Disappointing. No wonder. New fresh grad. I hear this story. I also tell my friends etc don't JOIN ST until you are ready to retire

Originally Posted by Unregistered

No wonder people keep saying ST is a retirement village. It's because of this kind of thought.
In thr business world. If you don't work. Don't bring value to the company. Why keep you?

In this current age fresh grad competiting for job. Inflation. Fresh grad starting pay already 4.5k... Some even asking for 5k+ and you are content with 6k+ doing nothing.

No wonder my friend who work in ST keep saying everything is ding dong push here push there. Nobody want to do. All want to siam work. Cause all just want to twite with 6k do nothing..

No skills.

Disappointing. No wonder. New fresh grad. I hear this story. I also tell my friends etc don't JOIN ST until you are ready to retire

no, i am referring to the E6 who work hard but DO NOT wish to do management work. These people are usually the technical people and they enjoy exploring new technology, guiding new people who just joined ST. they work hard but reject promotion from E6 to M1 because they DISLIKE doing management work. They are certainly not jiak liao bee and they do not siam the work or push it to others..

I am just saying they have a stable job and stable pay. i never said they are doing nothing and getting 6k+, please read properly..

They bring alot of value to the company with their rich experiences in many past projects and with them working from the bottom with a diploma makes them a great mentor for the fresh grad new joiners..

but yes they do intend to retire here, it is indeed a stable job doing def related work. The people that i am referring to work hard. What's wrong with staying here for a stable job but with no intend to do management work with their many years of experience? they owe you a living? Or are you the type of person that work so hard to try to get A grading but every year just get a C grading then stuck at E6 for 10 years then want to criticize the entire organisation?