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29-12-2020, 01:14 PM
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You got see elon musk complain this and complain that when space X not working?
Incompetent leadership, management and engineering skills.
Don't find so much excuses.
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He complain that apple ceo Tim Cook didn't take the meeting to see him when he want to sell tesla.
You work for me for free la. Don't find so many excuses. I offer you 2.5k you work la. Okay. No nonsense. Excuses please.
Instead of engineering, I want you to cook for me fine dining but I give you budget only 10 dollars per day. Oh and its a meal for 5.ny family and maid...
No excuses okay
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29-12-2020, 01:23 PM
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don't put the blame on the younger engineers when senior people cannot bring business to the company, It's their job to increase revenue. think about it when you are fresh grad, your senior at that time managed to bring in projects to feed you. Now that you are the "senior", all you do is just to say fresh grad too ex no ROI. its just showing that you are incompetent.
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So it's senior job to increase revenue for fresh grad to get high pay to do nothing in return?
Fresh grad logic.
Oh wait no. Its senior job to bring in revenue while fresh grad play their mobile game in office waiting to go home...
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29-12-2020, 01:25 PM
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Mcdonald fast food kitchen helper has more value than a fresh grad sitting in the office falling asleep "working" very hard.
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29-12-2020, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Senior manager already still cannot get message across properly. Awhile say work for free. Awhile offer 2.5k. Still want to lead people and manage projects... Oh dear....
Using engineers as chef... standards of ST senior managers.
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You don't know one of the skills of managers is to pay you less so the prokect can show profit so the bonus can go to the manager?
You so naive. Work late overtime. I notice yeah. But I also find u stupid to work so hard.... Not like I can increase your pay or give you high bonus its all HR
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29-12-2020, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Senior manager already still cannot get message across properly. Awhile say work for free. Awhile offer 2.5k. Still want to lead people and manage projects... Oh dear....
Using engineers as chef... standards of ST senior managers.
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Go engineer your fake resume and fake skill set.
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29-12-2020, 01:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
So it's senior job to increase revenue for fresh grad to get high pay to do nothing in return?
Fresh grad logic.
Oh wait no. Its senior job to bring in revenue while fresh grad play their mobile game in office waiting to go home...
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Senior already then can relax and let the business run by itself.
Senior logic
oh wait no. its go canteen for a 2 hours canteen coffee break waiting to go home.
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29-12-2020, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Come I hire you fresh grad 10k per month. I have a project to compete with the German flying taxi company.
Need you to engineer up a flying bus in 1 year.
Can? If you can produce a working flying bus in 9 months I give you 3 months bonus that's 30k.
But if you can't produce it in 12months you have to pay me a late delivery of 1million
Deal? Come you can work from home. Start immediately... Build the product your time starts now OK give you discount 1 Jan 2021...
Ywah that's right. You can't do it right. No skills right. Don't know where to begin right.
Go back to your books la fresh grad.
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Only Managers in ST will accept such projects. In front of customer everything can can can. Come back office want young engineers do this do that when he himself don't know what's going on. Then kena LD. Waste company resources.
Yes fresh grad can't do it. As a manager/senior lead by example and do it. Don't talk only. Awaiting your good news of flying bus by Jan 2022.
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29-12-2020, 02:16 PM
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Only Managers in ST will accept such projects. In front of customer everything can can can. Come back office want young engineers do this do that when he himself don't know what's going on. Then kena LD. Waste company resources.
Yes fresh grad can't do it. As a manager/senior lead by example and do it. Don't talk only. Awaiting your good news of flying bus by Jan 2022.
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Eh if 2.5k fresh grad ofc don't dare say can. But 5k fresh grad le. No experience. So?
We pay you so much, we expect you can do.
Cannot do. Then we pay you 5k for what.
Like you said our job is just to bring in revenue. Whether it can be delivered or not its your engineer job what.
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29-12-2020, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered
Eh if 2.5k fresh grad ofc don't dare say can. But 5k fresh grad le. No experience. So?
We pay you so much, we expect you can do.
Cannot do. Then we pay you 5k for what.
Like you said our job is just to bring in revenue. Whether it can be delivered or not its your engineer job what.
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huh? we pay u 6k 7k 8k 9k. cannot deliver a project your agreed? then we pay you so much for what? might as well pay fresh grad 5k right do you job scope right?
Like i said, what u just did is cost company million of dollars in LD, not revenue. Seems like your financial terms and mathematics is also not very competent. Project deliverable is project status, monitored by project managers. Back to the the point of being incompetent.
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