Correct. There were very hardworking, experienced and selfless technical engineers left because their supervisors tried to recommend them for promotions multiple times but failed. The big bosses also only promote mostly those who don't do technical work and coincidentally, these are his favourite or those under their favourite engineers.

Their assessing criteria is also weird. The big bosses have no technical knowledge yet they can determine who has put in effort and who had not. Unfortunately, everyone can see that he promoted his favourite who kept screwing things up and pushed all the blames to the development teams.

Another thing that I cannot understand is that all the engineers are lumped together for assessment and recommendation for promotion. Project engineers, hardware engineers, software engineers, QA engineers all do different things, different skillsets and different responsibilities. How do they even determine whether a project engineer have put in more efforts than the hardware engineer?

GES 2019, NUS CS median is 5k. even 25th percentile is 4.2k. Probably still higher than some of the ST "seniors"?

No, you don't understand. Why does the younger generations have to be punish for mistakes the older generations made?

Mistakes made by older generations
- Massive promotions in the past
- Promoted incapable engineers who become "leaders" (due to job grade) today

Punishment for younger generations
- No/harder promotions due to top heavy structure
- Being lead or ordered by incapable leaders

With no/harder promotion and only living with a miserable yearly increment of X%, how can the younger generations start a family given the rise in cost of living, HDB, Transport etc. Sometimes these increment cannot even fight the yearly inflation of Singapore.

Acute observation. That's why over last few years turn over rate for some divisions very high and nothing is done. At this rate, the divisions will be in trouble once the old timers retire in the next 10 - 15 years.

that's life dude... nobody owe who a living

What I never understand is why the seniors keep complaining and do nothing about it.
The easiest option is to leave, get out of the ****hole, and get the higher pay you deserve.
Unless you're incapable of leaving, then probably just suck it up instead of whining at a public forum.

Someone whining about other people whining on public forum. HAHAHA
Biggest irony ever.

You can't even follow ur own advice, want us to give a rat ass about ur opinion?
It's my keyboard i can type as I want.

Senior are doing something about it, they are bullying fresh grad. HAHAHA.

I just have time to read the discussions and post craps here.
But unlike you, I love my tech job, and I have amazing colleagues.
I paid decently too at >10k for 6 years of experience.
I don't overwork, neither do my colleagues.
We probably work way less than 8h daily.
I guess the difference is we all work extremely smart and efficient, delivering clear value to the company, the clients and arguably even the society.
Hence, we get the pay we deserve, yet have time to mock at you whiners.

I was paid <3k as a lowly engineer when I was a fresh grad, slightly below average.
My peers were getting paid more than me, and subsequent fresh grads were paid better than me for a few years.
But I never complained and whined, just did my job well, even with the measly pay.
I also learnt whatever I can, about the tech stuff, the business, the industry and meeting peers in the same industry.
It eventually paid off I guess, I'm getting opportunities every week, easily get interviews, received an offer every now and then.

Am I bragging? Maybe.
I just feel sad for you guys, just whining and doing nothing to improve your situation.
You whine and blame ST, the HR, the management, the old jiak liao bees, the fresh grads, the foreigners, and the market.
And you frame yourselves as the poor sandwiched seniors who are overworked.
It's almost too funny reading these.

ST does. Sumpa