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Old 18-03-2016, 10:29 AM
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I am a Marketing undergraduate student in a local U who is unable to find a job for many months already. (been looking since last year) I have some good internships on my resume.
I have gone for some interviews but it there's always tough competition and many other experienced candidates who end up clinching the job.

Any advice on how I should proceed?
Any one else in a similar situation as mine before?

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Old 18-03-2016, 12:10 PM
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Hi

I am a Marketing undergraduate student in a local U who is unable to find a job for many months already. (been looking since last year) I have some good internships on my resume.
I have gone for some interviews but it there's always tough competition and many other experienced candidates who end up clinching the job.

Any advice on how I should proceed?
Any one else in a similar situation as mine before?
Can consider doing contract work to build up your resume.

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Old 18-03-2016, 04:10 PM
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Yes ang moh knows when to take a break

Unlike Asian who slog like sh*t.
Ang Moh take breaks is jitao just resign, finish their savings then look for jobs. In Singapore you do this, you confirm die.

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Old 18-03-2016, 04:16 PM
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Hi

I am a Marketing undergraduate student in a local U who is unable to find a job for many months already. (been looking since last year) I have some good internships on my resume.
I have gone for some interviews but it there's always tough competition and many other experienced candidates who end up clinching the job.

Any advice on how I should proceed?
Any one else in a similar situation as mine before?
Went for many myself during the 10 months I was jobless. Most were expecting me to lower my pay (25-30%) and believe me I'm not a high earner. I paid up my car because I saved hard. 20% was already a lot I was going to cut off, but they wanted more, they don't care if I was experienced or ideal for the role.

I gave up after a while, just continued to look and at the same time, did temp job as I prior posted. Once all these 'cheap' roles are filled up, they will look for the others and expect differently.

That said, I finally landed a job. I had 3 jobs which was close in clinching, 1 had 5 interviews, which at the 4th, the ang moh was condescending and I didn't feel like completing the interview and ended there. The other had 3, which I completed successfully but I guess price was the deciding factor as during the first interview HR already asked if my asking can be lower. The boss also mentioned will short list me for the final, it's been, 4 weeks, I guess they already chose others.

The last one, 1 interview, chop chop, boss ok. At night offer already. Signed in 3 days and started in 7.

Perseverance, I guess. It's not that I am aiming a luxury life that I don't want to lower my asking. It's that the next job always looks at your last drawn, not experience. That's the sad thing in singapore - "paying 9-10K" but you meet their expectations at 100% or more, it happens, else, 4-5K only.

For fresh grad, go low, suffer 1 year - that's all I'm asking. Get that 1 year experience, jump and rise.

Market is bad or so I'm told, sometimes we all need to give in a bit. I took a pay cut back to my previous (not last) job. Overall however, package wins the last & previous job. So, I'm not complaining.
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Old 18-03-2016, 07:25 PM
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Don't worry.

For those retrenched ex-PMETs out there, such as ex-engineers and ex-bankers, do not be sad. Instead of worrying so much, you can just retire assuming you no longer have any dependents at age 55.

Good retirement plan in KL or Penang for a 55 years old retired couple.

Passive income
Rent out fully paid HDB flat S$2.5k pm or RM7.5k pm

KL or Penang cost of living
Rent a 2 bedroom condominium RM1.5k pm
Car expenses RM500 pm (assume buy used car in cash RM30k)
Food, groceries and utilities RM1.5k pm
Misc RM1k pm
Total spending RM4.5k pm
Savings RM3k pm

This retirement plan allows you to live in a condo and drive a car.

Your key retirement asset: HDB flat (we are very fortunate since we all get to buy cheap BTO HDB flats when we got married)
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Old 19-03-2016, 11:11 PM
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Don't worry.

For those retrenched ex-PMETs out there, such as ex-engineers and ex-bankers, do not be sad. Instead of worrying so much, you can just retire assuming you no longer have any dependents at age 55.

Good retirement plan in KL or Penang for a 55 years old retired couple.

Passive income
Rent out fully paid HDB flat S$2.5k pm or RM7.5k pm

KL or Penang cost of living
Rent a 2 bedroom condominium RM1.5k pm
Car expenses RM500 pm (assume buy used car in cash RM30k)
Food, groceries and utilities RM1.5k pm
Misc RM1k pm
Total spending RM4.5k pm
Savings RM3k pm

This retirement plan allows you to live in a condo and drive a car.

Your key retirement asset: HDB flat (we are very fortunate since we all get to buy cheap BTO HDB flats when we got married)
With the shortage of influx of FTs these days, rental doesn't get you much in Singapore. $2.5K is pretty unrealistic even for a prime HDB location. Just to be brutally honest..
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Really very hard to find employment now.

been going for numerous graduate roles, but always not selected. I can always almost see the other candidates at the lobby and stuff.

competition is stiff

remember, even if you go for interview, it doesn't mean they will hire you or choose you when they have the bargaining power
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Old 29-03-2016, 02:36 PM
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Out of job after retrenchment for slightly more than a month now. This is a mid age crisis in my mid career which I have always afraid of.

Too many job seeker now. Some with 20 to even 40 years of experience is asking around 6k in PM role. An average but competent PM in construction should be around 8k to 10k per month! A lot of under cutting happening now.
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Out of job after retrenchment for slightly more than a month now. This is a mid age crisis in my mid career which I have always afraid of.

Too many job seeker now. Some with 20 to even 40 years of experience is asking around 6k in PM role. An average but competent PM in construction should be around 8k to 10k per month! A lot of under cutting happening now.
How old are you? What's your net worth?
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