Anyone jobless for a long time before? - Page 62 - Salary.sg Forums
Salary.sg Forums  

Go Back   Salary.sg Forums > The Salary.sg Discussion Forums: > Income and Jobs

Income and Jobs Discuss jobs, career options and of course salaries




Anyone jobless for a long time before?

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #611 (permalink)  
Old 06-08-2014, 12:41 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Don't be a slave to other people. Be a man. If I were you, I will just leave and be a man. I would venture out of my own to create the next big thing.

I had the same experience. I quit and am now happily doing my own things. I am a free man. To me money no longer can give me happiness. There is so much to life than money.

I quit when I was 53. I sold my condo and bought a flat and I have money to live by. I don't fancy big houses and big cars any more. I no longer have a big ego.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I like the mean to get paid while I hunt for another job.

I am in a similar predicament. A bit different. I have been with my company for years. In the last year or so, this boss that I am reporting to seems to have some issues with me or maybe I have stepped on his toes unknowingly. We use to work quite well as a team. He tries to ostracize me and ignore my emails. Good thing I have built up quite a reputation in my company that he needs to think twice to get rid of me. Hence, he is employing th tactics of cold storage and tries to make me frustrated so that I will leave on my own accord. I am talking to a few other companies but somehow, I want to stay on and slug it out. Any advice?

Reply With Quote
  #612 (permalink)  
Old 06-08-2014, 01:45 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I like the mean to get paid while I hunt for another job.

I am in a similar predicament. A bit different. I have been with my company for years. In the last year or so, this boss that I am reporting to seems to have some issues with me or maybe I have stepped on his toes unknowingly. We use to work quite well as a team. He tries to ostracize me and ignore my emails. Good thing I have built up quite a reputation in my company that he needs to think twice to get rid of me. Hence, he is employing th tactics of cold storage and tries to make me frustrated so that I will leave on my own accord. I am talking to a few other companies but somehow, I want to stay on and slug it out. Any advice?
Do u like ur current job scope? Are the other companies u are talking to offering similar job? If u like the work, then if I were u, I would just stay to piss him off and leave once I secure the new job, try not to let the boss bother u too much. It seems easier to find another job while u still have a job, if it's still bearable then keep going, it wld probably benefit u more.

If he's really nasty to the point it's affecting you badly and making you really unhappy then leave I guess, is it also possible to complain about his behavior to another superior in the company?

Reply With Quote
  #613 (permalink)  
Old 06-08-2014, 03:02 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Don't be a slave to other people. Be a man. If I were you, I will just leave and be a man. I would venture out of my own to create the next big thing.

I had the same experience. I quit and am now happily doing my own things. I am a free man. To me money no longer can give me happiness. There is so much to life than money.

I quit when I was 53. I sold my condo and bought a flat and I have money to live by. I don't fancy big houses and big cars any more. I no longer have a big ego.
I like to but I can't bear to forego the paycheck. I don't have big ego too. I just want to make an honest living. It seems like I might have become a threat to him, I don't know for sure if that is the case.

I have thought of venturing out but I am not sure where to start.

Reply With Quote
  #614 (permalink)  
Old 06-08-2014, 03:06 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
Do u like ur current job scope? Are the other companies u are talking to offering similar job? If u like the work, then if I were u, I would just stay to piss him off and leave once I secure the new job, try not to let the boss bother u too much. It seems easier to find another job while u still have a job, if it's still bearable then keep going, it wld probably benefit u more.

If he's really nasty to the point it's affecting you badly and making you really unhappy then leave I guess, is it also possible to complain about his behavior to another superior in the company?
I like the work and the other companies have simliar roles for me as well. It is still bearable for now but I felt so useless some times. As times go by, I felt more and more disconnected from others because I am not kept in the loop. I felt that there is no future for me. I guess that's the psychological approach that he is deploying. I know he has done this to a few before.
Reply With Quote
  #615 (permalink)  
Old 06-08-2014, 03:26 PM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I like the work and the other companies have simliar roles for me as well. It is still bearable for now but I felt so useless some times. As times go by, I felt more and more disconnected from others because I am not kept in the loop. I felt that there is no future for me. I guess that's the psychological approach that he is deploying. I know he has done this to a few before.
Bear it for a while more and leave when you get another job or have enough savings to venture out on ur own. I feel useless in my current role as well, not kept in the loop, and it really isnt a place for me..i'm disconnected from my colleagues, the work is not related to my field at all, dont really know why they even hire me..but at least my boss isnt nasty, i have quite a lot of freedom. Just think of it as u're there to lead to better things later on, u're doing something useful by staying --> getting paycheck which u could use later on for ur own ventures? or getting another job?
Reply With Quote
  #616 (permalink)  
Old 06-08-2014, 05:55 PM
SOD
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I like the work and the other companies have simliar roles for me as well. It is still bearable for now but I felt so useless some times. As times go by, I felt more and more disconnected from others because I am not kept in the loop. I felt that there is no future for me. I guess that's the psychological approach that he is deploying. I know he has done this to a few before.
Suggested tactic:

Step 1: Do nothing internally, but start updating your CV, broaden your contacts with recruitment agents and go for preliminary interviews with other companies

Step 2: Once you have a few positions you are actively in various stages of interview and you feel at least 60% chance of getting something, start to play internal politics, report the superior, look for other senior backers, feedback to HR etc. All the while continue with your interviews.

It is important to minimize the risk and have some confidence in securing a job outside before you take internal actions as playing the internal game against your boss is much more risky. You want some backup in case you fail and get sacked / told to resign.

Step 3: Hopefully you will be in a position to choose from external offers or be successful in changing your internal situation.

BIG NO NO

#1: Do not quite without a job.

#2: Do not venture into starting business just because of this. This is a recipe for failure. You go into business because you identify a profitable opportunity, not out of boredom and lethargy from being employed.

#3: Do not make rash decision to join anyone that offer you. Evaluate the company and job scope carefully. You are not an unemployed guy desperate for a job, make use of that & take your time to find an offer you are comfortable.

#4: Do not tell anyone at work no matter how close of your plans, there is no such thing as secret in the workplace.
Reply With Quote

  #617 (permalink)  
Old 07-08-2014, 12:36 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

I agree fully with #1 and #2. Wise advice not to be so impulsive.

But as for #3, I guess if a person is so fed up with his current employer, then it's also just as well to apply for any job that he can qualify for, then get out first, as fast as possible. This is better for mental health! Applying to many many jobs also means better chance of securing one and getting out of current situation quickly.

#4 very true. In fact, don't tell anyone at work or even update your social media status etc. until a month or more after new job is secure.
Reply With Quote
  #618 (permalink)  
Old 07-08-2014, 12:39 AM
Super Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2014
Posts: 125
in3deep is on a distinguished road
Default

so depressing

to have finished all the interviews and to be told position is put on hold cause of some reorg

Reply With Quote
  #619 (permalink)  
Old 07-08-2014, 09:03 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Any fresh graduates from 2014 still unable to find jobs?
Reply With Quote
  #620 (permalink)  
Old 07-08-2014, 10:50 AM
Unregistered
Guest
 
Posts: n/a
Default

Dont listen to that kind of frivolous advise. He is 53 and is not likely to get employed to his old position / salary level again. He may think that he has no more ego, but in actual case, circumstances have forced him to swallow his pride and to settle for what he is doing now. Even to the extent of downgrading from his condo.

Everyone dreams of being their own boss, but not everyone can be one. While we cant be our own boss, we can work hard, save, invest and grow our wealth to feel like a boss.

A person can follow 4 career paths:

1. Be an employee
2. Be a sole proprietor eg dentist, GP, accountant, consultant, tuition teacher etc.
3. Be an investor
4 Be a businness owner

If you are good at something and really passionate about it, you can and probably do well as a sole proprietor. Being a business owner is out for most of us ordinary folks especially when starting out.

Being an employee is what most of us will start off as and likely to end our working life as one as well. But it is not all gloom and doom being an employee. When gainfully employed, we must strive to save and invest as much as we can. You will be pleasantly surprised what time can do to constant, and persistent savings and investments.

For my case, I have stocks of 30 companies and each financial year closing, I get annual reports from these 30 companies that gave me a sense of being a "boss". I am not craving to be a boss, but I can imagine what this can do for those who want to be bosses. Besides the annual reports, I get to attend AGMs and question the management teams of the companies. Why be a boss? The best part, is the dividends that rolled in !

It is important to do a bit of soul searching and see which category you are suited for. For most of us, it is to be an employee.



Quote:
Originally Posted by Unregistered View Post
I like to but I can't bear to forego the paycheck. I don't have big ego too. I just want to make an honest living. It seems like I might have become a threat to him, I don't know for sure if that is the case.

I have thought of venturing out but I am not sure where to start.
Reply With Quote
Reply

Bookmarks

« Previous Thread | Next Thread »
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Jobless Graduates Should Consider SAF Salary.sg Income and Jobs 63 06-10-2021 07:32 PM
Our Poll Results: 45% Fresh Graduates Jobless Salary.sg Income and Jobs 48 01-07-2020 03:43 PM
How long should i work here? dryden28 Income and Jobs 6 31-08-2010 04:27 PM
65,400 Jobless in September, will be Significantly More Salary.sg Income and Jobs 0 16-01-2009 05:38 PM
Bank executives work long hours Salary.sg Income and Jobs 2 25-05-2008 03:02 PM

» 30 Recent Threads
GovTech ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,164 Replies, 2,165,151 Views
UOB Management Associate Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,459 Replies, 784,925 Views
Q: Big4 - Yearly salary increment ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
15,323 Replies, 4,985,374 Views
Career as Teacher ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
10,856 Replies, 6,672,708 Views
Compare civil service salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
16,344 Replies, 12,458,748 Views
NCS (SingTel subsidiary) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,331 Replies, 1,142,660 Views
ITE Polytechnic Scheme ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
311 Replies, 369,531 Views
MAS for Mid Career Professionals ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,806 Replies, 1,045,616 Views
Why Is Having a Google Virtual...
1 Replies, 6,793 Views
How is life as a doctor in... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
7,240 Replies, 3,400,110 Views
JP Morgan ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
199 Replies, 173,532 Views
Shopee fresh grad pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,050 Replies, 440,872 Views
Mining Industry ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
80 Replies, 74,537 Views
Civil Service Performance Bonus ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,340 Replies, 4,773,216 Views
Civil Service Current Estimated... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
171 Replies, 309,691 Views
LTA (Land Transport Authority) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
680 Replies, 389,063 Views
Lawyer Salary ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
21,015 Replies, 10,331,847 Views
ST Electronics ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
3,768 Replies, 1,545,583 Views
Is getting a PMP worth it ?
4 Replies, 7,178 Views
Visa Graduate Development Program ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
207 Replies, 134,739 Views
SIM-UOL fresh grad starting pay ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,922 Replies, 2,903,739 Views
Nparks ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
39 Replies, 34,437 Views
MINDEF DXO (All FAQ on it) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
5,828 Replies, 4,657,830 Views
Constituency Manager (People... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
989 Replies, 814,071 Views
Julius Baer Graduate Program 2023 ( 1 2 3)
21 Replies, 14,851 Views
Roles in accenture singapore ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
7,385 Replies, 2,325,215 Views
HTX (Home Team Science and... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
752 Replies, 358,939 Views
DSTA (under Mindef) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,464 Replies, 1,375,909 Views
IMDA (under MCI) ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
1,260 Replies, 613,971 Views
Civil Svc/ Statboard - Typical... ( 1 2 3... Last Page)
6,123 Replies, 3,739,251 Views
Powered by vBadvanced CMPS v3.2.2



All times are GMT +8. The time now is 06:44 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.5
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.3.2