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Old 06-03-2019, 09:22 PM
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guys is WSQ HR specialist diploma programme good enough to get a HR job? I have spoke to consultant in HCM academy and all he says that it is to prepare you for work? My question is would I have skills as compared to a HR/Biz graduate? I believe NYP/RP/SP also do specialist diplomas.

I am interested to step into HR but really dubious about WSQ honorability for what it is actually stand for. If I am not wrong try searching the in search forum with "WSQ courses" and you can see people complaining that their HR/hiring manager overlooked their WSQ qualifications. This really puts me off.

I do not wish to do masters but I do have a degree non-hr. So guys help me out here

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Old 06-03-2019, 10:35 PM
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guys is WSQ HR specialist diploma programme good enough to get a HR job? I have spoke to consultant in HCM academy and all he says that it is to prepare you for work? My question is would I have skills as compared to a HR/Biz graduate? I believe NYP/RP/SP also do specialist diplomas.

I am interested to step into HR but really dubious about WSQ honorability for what it is actually stand for. If I am not wrong try searching the in search forum with "WSQ courses" and you can see people complaining that their HR/hiring manager overlooked their WSQ qualifications. This really puts me off.

I do not wish to do masters but I do have a degree non-hr. So guys help me out here
Not about the cert, different companies have different hr systems so it wont be that important, try to get a place and work from the bottom as exp is much more impt. There is a high chance that without exp, u will get nothing even if u have the cert.

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Old 07-03-2019, 01:50 AM
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btw i got a job offer as a frontline cso. it literally pains to see myself earn 1.7K when my friends earn thrice as that. whoever said degree open doors.. dont believe it. experience is the way to go
Keep applying and grab a decent 2.6k job at the earliest opportunity. I know of a friend who believed that accumulating experience was the most important and guess what.. Employers in SG are all cheapskates, they will gladly pay u 15% above the last payslip... U calculate lor. Super sad. Don't even put this job in your resume. No point stating internship as bosses do call and check.

Degree does open doors, but when the economy is in the dumps, we all pray for something decent.

You are not the only freshie catching mosquitoes at home, I know of at least 3 others from NTU and NUS science related.

Don't think that experience is so much more important. U try hitting 10k with a poly diploma. I have so many friends who stopped at Dip. They gave up being employee coz at least being a towkay they anyday earn above 2.5k with hard work. Yes selling insurance and house is an option, but not everyone has honey laced lips.

Don't give up.

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Old 07-03-2019, 02:12 AM
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guys is WSQ HR specialist diploma programme good enough to get a HR job? I have spoke to consultant in HCM academy and all he says that it is to prepare you for work? My question is would I have skills as compared to a HR/Biz graduate? I believe NYP/RP/SP also do specialist diplomas.

I am interested to step into HR but really dubious about WSQ honorability for what it is actually stand for. If I am not wrong try searching the in search forum with "WSQ courses" and you can see people complaining that their HR/hiring manager overlooked their WSQ qualifications. This really puts me off.

I do not wish to do masters but I do have a degree non-hr. So guys help me out here
Wsq cert is not useful for degree holder. I have a stack of them, eventually I don't even mention in the resume. It's a system for gahmen to let money move and keep morale up nothing more than that. However to rank and file its crucial to get jobs coz that's their only qualification.

Unfortunately, you won't have skills comparable to HR graduate. Those students spent 2 years specializing.

Specialist diploma to me, it's the equivalent of somebody cherry picking n teaching you a couple of modules from a diploma program. Skips the general stuff and just imparts specific skills to survive in an area you are inadequate in. But the name itself already states, Dip... If u get hired u r not likely paid as degree. We have to get real, how much may a boss pay for A) HR degree holder B) unrelated degree.

Go get some experience if u insist to do HR. Pull some strings, it won't be easy with hundreds of HR graduates.
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Old 07-03-2019, 01:34 PM
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Hello, does anyone here find the current sg job market stagnant and quiet? Almost one year since i graduated and not much interview calls...

I also realise that most of the job postings now are mostly contract jobs. Most likely due to employers not wanting to pay for staff benefits and cpf.

Honestly, getting scared and anxious.
Not sure if my resume or bad grades is the one hindering me from getting interview
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Hello, does anyone here find the current sg job market stagnant and quiet? Almost one year since i graduated and not much interview calls...

I also realise that most of the job postings now are mostly contract jobs. Most likely due to employers not wanting to pay for staff benefits and cpf.

Honestly, getting scared and anxious.
Not sure if my resume or bad grades is the one hindering me from getting interview

It is scary to be unemployed. There are many reasons for not being called up for interview.

Employers still need to pay cpf even for contract jobs.
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Old 07-03-2019, 08:59 PM
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Hello, does anyone here find the current sg job market stagnant and quiet? Almost one year since i graduated and not much interview calls...

I also realise that most of the job postings now are mostly contract jobs. Most likely due to employers not wanting to pay for staff benefits and cpf.

Honestly, getting scared and anxious.
Not sure if my resume or bad grades is the one hindering me from getting interview
In SG rarely you find perm position now. Maybe if one works for 4 5 years stands a chance.

Contract role in SG and overseas is different. In SG we treat "contractors" very well with full benefits. The only difference is, contractors can be let go for any reason when the period is up.

Non pr and Singaporean friends get very worried though, as they are forced to depart if they don't re-contract within a few months. Assuming you are pr/citizen, it don't really make a difference except maybe some peace of mind. But if you are a go-getter, you probably appreciate the exposure by moving around.

Keep applying, don't give up. Sometimes after hiring cools down, people do resign due to many reasons, especially poor job fit. Then it's your chance to gain the experience!

It's now supply exceeded demand, don't kick yourself.
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Old 07-03-2019, 10:02 PM
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Keep applying and grab a decent 2.6k job at the earliest opportunity. I know of a friend who believed that accumulating experience was the most important and guess what.. Employers in SG are all cheapskates, they will gladly pay u 15% above the last payslip... U calculate lor. Super sad. Don't even put this job in your resume. No point stating internship as bosses do call and check.

Degree does open doors, but when the economy is in the dumps, we all pray for something decent.

You are not the only freshie catching mosquitoes at home, I know of at least 3 others from NTU and NUS science related.

Don't think that experience is so much more important. U try hitting 10k with a poly diploma. I have so many friends who stopped at Dip. They gave up being employee coz at least being a towkay they anyday earn above 2.5k with hard work. Yes selling insurance and house is an option, but not everyone has honey laced lips.

Don't give up.
Why do you say don't even bother putting the job on resume that the person have got offer in his/her resume? Given that the person stated current job offer salary is 1.7K. Is it because it is too low? I am asking for myself too. Been doing contract after contract and low pay around 2K.
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Old 08-03-2019, 01:10 AM
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Why do you say don't even bother putting the job on resume that the person have got offer in his/her resume? Given that the person stated current job offer salary is 1.7K. Is it because it is too low? I am asking for myself too. Been doing contract after contract and low pay around 2K.
My humble opinion.

The first job is crucial in Singapore. Every job after is just 15% above it.

SG is unlike western world. In western countries it is illegal to ask for payslip. Every job must be calculated as a new challenge.

In Singapore, no point saying that the challenges are different cannot count this way.. Every boss wants to low ball you. If you are over qualified usually they say "are you OK to take lower we offer work life balance, benefits, etc." But to excel, probably u will OT to accomplish more anyway. If you match nicely they will say "this is a chance for you to learn, towards your next job..." Its BS. Companies that claim learning opportunities usually have no money to get talent. Why is this important? You learn the most when a company hires the best, and you get to learn on the job watching these talent perform. Better still, you work alongside them.

70% chance the company called you because within budget, rarely because they need your skill set. Unless your skill set is niche. Also possible that your cover was so well written they like your meta cognition. Nobody remembers your cover, but people remember they were impressed. Impression is crucial.

If u took 2k for some time, you have created a problem for yourself. You will take forever to reach 2.6k when peers already increase 15% and 7% year on year. In 5 years MAYBE your peers 5k, you 3k.

Even if you apply for M level jobs, even if you can do it, bosses peg salary to ability coz that's all they know about you.

I could be wrong. Your next job may be 4k with 3 years exp.

There's a lot of people stuck with 4k 8 years experience, believe me. They just inflate their numbers to match their pride. These people tend to actively seek good passive and side income to compensate living needs in exorbitant Singapore. It's not a bad idea. Those getting 8k don't go home at 5.30 either.

If u r stuck, make money work for you. Don't work for money like the lucky others else you will be depressed once house and child comes. You work 1 day and all the money goes to a week of milk powder. Crazy inflated prices here.

My humble opinion

Don't give up
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Old 10-03-2019, 11:04 AM
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Angry Americans seeking to extradite fake FT previously working in Singapore

s://.indiawest.com/news/global_indian/feds-seeking-to-extradite-former-indian-professor-anoop-shankar-accused/article_f9833f5e-a712-11e8-b001-df351b96fcdf.html

Feds Seeking to Extradite Former Indian Professor Anoop Shankar, Accused of Faking Credentials. Shankar was at NUS’ Yong Loo Lin School of Medicine from 2005 to 2008, where he was part of the department of community, occupational and family medicine.

It raises the questions of how many bogus silver-tongued FTs there are in Singapore occupying jobs that us Singaporeans could fill? Who is at fault here??


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