ahhaah true, the poorer folks have what is called the 'Ah Q' mentality, with spiritual victories to justify their lack of work ethic and ambition (with rationale of 'work life balance', better health, being more zen buddhist, not money minded etc) lol
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To put it plainly in Singlish, cannot make it in life don't sour grapes and act atas by talking cheem. |
All of you shut up lah.. Why so many lame comments? Argue here argue there go kopi tiam argue lah..
Don't kp kb here. English so good go apply to be literature lecturer at nus. Don't lecture us folks here. |
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why are people on forums so pretentious?
act smart still not enough, have to be so pretentious? Cool it people |
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Must I patronise you? Ok la I talk liddat k? knn kpkb liddat not pretentious even tho I dun talk like this eberidae |
erm.. what has this forum turn into? A war of words?
anyways, I have been out of full time job for 5 months.. got offered a assistant finance analyst role for 2.4k in MNC.. and got a service executive role at a very large MNC.. top 5 in fortune 500.. for 2.6k.. I prefer finance, I don't like service... but I need the money being 5 months out of job.. |
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I can sympathise with you, i was also out of job for 6 months and surviving on my savings, worse still i was in the midst of preparing for my wedding and i was undergoing hell during that period of time... Lucky I managed to get a job straightaway after my wedding (think lady luck finally smile at me) even though I got a 20% paycut with a startup but at least I know i got money to feed my wife and myself w/o digging into my savings anymore.... Lesson learned here: DONT ever quit w/o a JOB.... |
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Extended period joblessness is no longer uncommon nowaday. You are not alone. The statistics show a very low unemployment rate...I am not sure if it paints a true picture. One thing for sure is that people are definitely taking longer time to find a job.
Read more genuine real stories in http://www.transitioning.org/ |
I graduated from NTU before the millenium.
I studied Banking, but no banks wanted me. Through a relative, I ended up doing part operations/part sales at an automotive distributor for over a year. Through a classmate, I moved on to join a general insurance broking outfit for 2 years. Through an industry referral, I moved on to join a general insurance company and stayed there for a long time. Now, through a headhunter, I moved on to a reinsurance company and been working for almost a year. You see, throughout my career, what I do has limited relevance to what I do. It's a stigma that all young fresh graduates must shake off. And employment most often does not come to you via resumes (unless you are good looking and have an outstanding story to tell). You are lucky if you can find what you like, otherwise find work that you don't hate (note: don't like is not the same as hate). It will open other doors for you. Sitting at home and deciding the $$ and ideal position will not give you the choice of the doors to open! FYI, the general insurance industry greatly need Singaporeans. It's not a sales job, and you deal with a very cosmopolitan working community. Pay is not fantastic like the bankers, and not as glamourous as the bankers, but whoever that needed work, it's the next best thing in my view! |
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Not true you have to be good looking to apply via resume. My friend looks like a freaking psycho scientist (sorry) but obviously the recruiter saw something in him and offered him chemical engineer job at Exxon. |
Good looking or not is in the eye of the recruiter....
Anyone best advice there "DO NOT QUIT WITHOUT A NEW JOB"!!! And ya, if you out of job, just grab any JOB first, then meanwhile look for a new one. You will never know if you decided that you liked it and want to make it a CAREER. Otherwise just keep looking!! Most important thing is, get $$ 1st, dun care!! low pay? unless its lower than what you get for doing nothing;otherwise go for it. One day in 2011 i applied for JOB, i register and spam jobstreet like 50positions, some i did not even read on monday morning (3am - 6am). Received a call on 10am, interview at 4pm, hired and started work 1st day of next month (my current job) Of cos i did went to other interviews... about 7 others then i reject the rest liao. Now is just collecting money while wasting bandwidth in forum. Pay is ultra low la (ar bu then, so easy meh) Trust me i am an "engineer", my pay is so low... I have to surf internet in office |
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I think the 200-250k per annum guy is troll lah....don't take seriously..
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Typical younster characteristic -> Boss give you a bit of scolding or negative comment you straightaway tell the boss to go fcuk himself and that you dont need his comments coz you plan to quit even though you dont have a job ie you think you are the next greatest human being to ever happen in human evolution. Yup I know a lot of you are nodding your heads now coz I was once like that also hahaha Sighx those were the childish days, now with a wife in toll need to be more discipline...can only curse after work but not during work hahaha |
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Jobless since Aug 12
Hi,
I have been jobless since Aug 12 and have not been able to secure even an interview. I am in my mid 40s. If it continues this way till end of the year, I can say goodbye to going back to the workforce forever. Really sad... |
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But its very true that once you hit the big 40s its very hard to look for new jobs or hop around..but I think its not the end of the world coz you may get another job (but with a steep pay cut, just bear with it and take the job till something better comes along) while at the same time you can learn new skills such as getting a class 4 license, getting certified in plumbing etc and later do a sideline. Just don't make excuses and say oh I am 40 years old too old to learn, very tired need to start all over again etc. In Singapore, no one owes you a living not even the govt, you just need to suck up to reality esp now with influx of foreigners and move on or stay stagnated. :) |
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The influx of foreign workers are stealing jobs... are YOU know it. These limitless workforce are perpetually young, fit and exploitable, they will never grow old simply because they are constantly replaced. How are you going to compete with this source of limitless energy? Whats worse is that these people can easily take over a myriad of jobs that does not require any experienced skills (such as: labor, plumbing, driving, etc...) We paid our dues when serving NS, and some with yearly taxes. And now that these people are old, we are simply replacing them like rubbish? Governing a country should not be run like a business, if everyone govern their family values like a business, human population would have already been extinct! Dun trust me, I am an "engineer", humans are declared as variables.... |
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Basically no matter how disappointed you are with the sg govt, no matter how much you complain etc things will still remain the same, foreigners will still come in (albeit slower rate), older folks will still get their jobs replace (this is life, this is the law of nature where the strongest survive) My point is instead of waiting for the govt to respond to you or complaining, why not take the first step and make the change (same applies for those who always complain about why their income is low, why my life like that etc.) Here is a proverb which I heard somewhere before and I end my discussion with it: "If you want a miracle, be that miracle" . |
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We should have more protection for SINGAPOREAN (CITIZENS) WORKERS
The debate on foreign workers in Singapore is missing an important point - we dont really care about the low end jobs now filled by foreign labour in construction, maids, etc. What we very concerned about is the white collar jobs are being filled by foreigners - foreign AND Singapore PRs. These positions can be easily filled by the citizen JOBLESS GRADUATES. Bear in mind, PRs are not Singaporeans. I see many job positions, even in the civil service, which stated for "Singaporeans and PRs". PRs are not Singaporeans - they are foreigners. Why should they be given same priority as Singaporeans? Policy must change or else many of our SINGAPOREAN CITIZENS, esp those above 40s, will be jobless - and this is a disaster, politically. From now on, job positions (esp the civil service) must state: "ONLY SINGAPOREANS NEED APPLY" PRs and foreigners should be categorised the same. PRs should not be given the same priority as citizens. We must protect our SINGAPOREAN CITIZEN WORKERS. |
[QUOTE=Unregistered;30812]We should have more protection for SINGAPOREAN (CITIZENS) WORKERS
The debate on foreign workers in Singapore is missing an important point - we dont really care about the low end jobs now filled by foreign labour in construction, maids, etc. What we very concerned about is the white collar jobs are being filled by foreigners - foreign AND Singapore PRs. These positions can be easily filled by the citizen JOBLESS GRADUATES. Bear in mind, PRs are not Singaporeans. I see many job positions, even in the civil service, which stated for "Singaporeans and PRs". PRs are not Singaporeans - they are foreigners. Why should they be given same priority as Singaporeans? Policy must change or else many of our SINGAPOREAN CITIZENS, esp those above 40s, will be jobless - and this is a disaster, politically. From now on, job positions (esp the civil service) must state: "ONLY SINGAPOREANS NEED APPLY" PRs and foreigners should be categorised the same. PRs should not be given the same priority as citizens. We must protect our SINGAPOREAN CITIZEN WORKERS.[/QUOTE FYI, this is a forum on discussion relating to career discussion, if you want to discuss politics, suggest you bring that over to other political forum..... |
wah liew off topic again....
hmm what is the typical number of applications to 1 job offer, and what is the typical number of months of job search for 1 job offer? |
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