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Old 06-07-2019, 11:49 AM
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Mid 30s, currently jobless since March.

I was in a job for 1.5 years that went sour quickly in the last few months before i left. Even thou the other colleagues, salary and company were generally OK... the immediate circumstances i was in made leaving the only choice. That's all i'll reveal as there's no point in digging up past wrongdoings even if i'm not the one responsible for it.

I was lucky, or so it seem to have a referral from an ex-staff of another company in the same sector. Managed to ace the interview right away and contract signed right after i tender. I ended my 1.5 year job in Feb and started the new one right away. But life always has a way of turning out... not to my wildest imagination the new job which has a better pay and supposedly a better port-folio turned out to a mismatch in which i went through one of the most emotionally taunting period of my life. Once again, there's no point in digging up the past and that I've tried my best and understood that people, especially in the working world aren't always nice. I left the new job just 1 month within the probation period. I'm glad i didn't waste more time between myself and the company if it weren't a match.

I took around 1 to 1.5 months to get myself back together from the emotionally drained taunting last 2 jobs. It is until the stage where i told myself "**** it, i'll rather be jobless than this" when i see myself so stressed out that i could hardly breathe sometimes.

Had a couple of job opening for me in the first few months but i rejected them as i wasn't ready. I officially started applying for jobs mid May. Until now there was only 1 interview which i had to turn down due to a criteria that was a no-go for me. One other phone interests which turned silent after.

A couple of seemingly interested ones but so far no calls.

I've had jobless gaps before in the past (a 4 month and a 7 month). So far it has been 3.5 month but things feel abit different... i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

One thing I've learnt is when things get going well... please save enough money and possibly, open another source of income for ourselves. Working world is full of unpredictable that it'd be silly to even trying to think about it. Sometimes we can do all the things right and blend in well with everyone but still get singled out to leave. Sometimes we can hit the KPIs and still get retrenched. The best we could do is to save up for rainy days.

Hope everyone whose finding a job too hear good luck calling upon them soon.

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Mid 30s, currently jobless since March.

I was in a job for 1.5 years that went sour quickly in the last few months before i left. Even thou the other colleagues, salary and company were generally OK... the immediate circumstances i was in made leaving the only choice. That's all i'll reveal as there's no point in digging up past wrongdoings even if i'm not the one responsible for it.

I was lucky, or so it seem to have a referral from an ex-staff of another company in the same sector. Managed to ace the interview right away and contract signed right after i tender. I ended my 1.5 year job in Feb and started the new one right away. But life always has a way of turning out... not to my wildest imagination the new job which has a better pay and supposedly a better port-folio turned out to a mismatch in which i went through one of the most emotionally taunting period of my life. Once again, there's no point in digging up the past and that I've tried my best and understood that people, especially in the working world aren't always nice. I left the new job just 1 month within the probation period. I'm glad i didn't waste more time between myself and the company if it weren't a match.

I took around 1 to 1.5 months to get myself back together from the emotionally drained taunting last 2 jobs. It is until the stage where i told myself "**** it, i'll rather be jobless than this" when i see myself so stressed out that i could hardly breathe sometimes.

Had a couple of job opening for me in the first few months but i rejected them as i wasn't ready. I officially started applying for jobs mid May. Until now there was only 1 interview which i had to turn down due to a criteria that was a no-go for me. One other phone interests which turned silent after.

A couple of seemingly interested ones but so far no calls.

I've had jobless gaps before in the past (a 4 month and a 7 month). So far it has been 3.5 month but things feel abit different... i'm keeping my fingers crossed.

One thing I've learnt is when things get going well... please save enough money and possibly, open another source of income for ourselves. Working world is full of unpredictable that it'd be silly to even trying to think about it. Sometimes we can do all the things right and blend in well with everyone but still get singled out to leave. Sometimes we can hit the KPIs and still get retrenched. The best we could do is to save up for rainy days.

Hope everyone whose finding a job too hear good luck calling upon them soon.
I'm the above poster, to add on, don't take it too personal when we don't get chosen over a job which we thought seemingly to be a perfect fit.

I've looked and observed the hiring process whenever i could and i understood that many times it has nothing to do with us, the applicant.

I've made friends with my HR colleagues from my past 3 companies and learning from them the process of hiring made me find in amusement that sometimes getting hired is like striking lottery.

We could be the perfect candidate but here are some facts...

1. Some company put out a recruitment ad to "test water". You'd often in the end find the same company putting out another position that looks similar both in title and JD after the first one. I've even seen company advertising a job withholding their company title - and after i attended the interview (therefore i knew the company name) they put out another similar advertisement disclosing their company name. It could mean they are fishing for resumes / salary expectation on the first round.

2. They are preparing to hire someone internally. Maybe someone's friend or relative. This is often the most common happening. The advertisement or interview is just to make it seem they are not practicing nepotism or flouting some rules. Often the one they hire are not a better fitting candidate than you. But this is life.

3. Department headcount changes / bosses change of mind. This is also one of the most common happenings and basically there's nothing we can do.

4. There's someone even more perfect than us in some ways. Fair and square.

That is the few i could think of and i hope for those who don't get chosen, don't take it too hard on yourself. I myself has went through alot of interviews situations before and i'll say we can easily deduce the 4 pointers on top when we read a job advertisement / during the interview. Come to a point i can immediately know from the way they posted to the experience during the interview.

One last thing i'll say is; salary are often not the thing employers care about. Any company are easily multi-million dollar and they do not care if an employee gets 300 or 500 dollars more per month. What they often care are whether you fit what they are looking for and what you can do for them. I've seen employees on the same title, same job doing the same thing getting paid much less or more while one does all the job and the other does much lesser.

Hope the above helps and may we all find what we're looking for soon.

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Old 06-07-2019, 12:37 PM
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You must have the mindset that you wonít be in the same job and same place forever. Be hungry, be the best. Always think that you could lose your job any time. So donít waste your money and incur huge loans.

Donít think if youíre working as a banker you can spend as you wish. Be humble and save. Just buy a HDB flat no need to buy a condo. Donít have big mortgage because if you lose your job and your condo price collapses, you will be in big financial problem. Condos are for the highly successful high flyers who donít need to take big mortgages.

Aim for FIRE.

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You must have the mindset that you wonít be in the same job and same place forever. Be hungry, be the best. Always think that you could lose your job any time. So donít waste your money and incur huge loans.

Donít think if youíre working as a banker you can spend as you wish. Be humble and save. Just buy a HDB flat no need to buy a condo. Donít have big mortgage because if you lose your job and your condo price collapses, you will be in big financial problem. Condos are for the highly successful high flyers who donít need to take big mortgages.

Aim for FIRE.
How old are you? Not sure if itís suitable to ask for yr opinion.

Would you buy a resale flat in a mature estate or BTO?
for resale, u get the house fast but concern is the no of years left on the leasehold.
For BTO, itís subj to balloting and hv to wait 3-5 years to get keys.
Do u look at them to fulfill housing needs and/or store of value?
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I'm not proud to say this but i am currently and has lots of experience of jobless times.

I've been through gaps of unemployment and i hope the follow tips can help those whom are also going through this tough period afloat;

1. Just keep trying. Keep applying on any job slightly to your interest; don't mind if you fit the requirement or not. Just hit the apply button, there's nothing to lose. Sometimes you don't think you are suitable but you maybe suitable to the employer.

2. This is really important; do not regress. Meaning do not let your personal self be affected by your job search. For example, don't become lazy in your dressing, grooming or diet just because now you are not working. If you let it snowball and regress... you will find yourself taking many steps backwards and soon you won't recognize yourself in the mirror. Many times when we are unemployed we slip up in our dressing etc... but all it takes it one slip up and many will follow.

3. Exercise. Seriously please do. When we're not working we have tons of time on our hand and can easily lead to laying around doing nothing. This is terrible for our physical and mental health. Exercise keeps us alert for any possible job interviews and not make us depress.

When i was unemployed before... i gave up and regress. I ended up spending all my savings smoking (more than i was during work), eating badly and doing nothing. Although i did found a job later on but all i became was fat and sicky.

This time i am watching my diet and exercise. It is helping me to stay in shape and keeping me sane.

So guys and girls, please do. It costs almost nothing to exercise and choosing the right diet won't cost much that what we are already eating. Take this negative period and turn it into a positive self improvement period. Maybe we can even emerge better looking and healthier.

Cheers!
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Old 06-07-2019, 06:23 PM
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I'm not proud to say this but i am currently and has lots of experience of jobless times.

I've been through gaps of unemployment and i hope the follow tips can help those whom are also going through this tough period afloat;

1. Just keep trying. Keep applying on any job slightly to your interest; don't mind if you fit the requirement or not. Just hit the apply button, there's nothing to lose. Sometimes you don't think you are suitable but you maybe suitable to the employer.

2. This is really important; do not regress. Meaning do not let your personal self be affected by your job search. For example, don't become lazy in your dressing, grooming or diet just because now you are not working. If you let it snowball and regress... you will find yourself taking many steps backwards and soon you won't recognize yourself in the mirror. Many times when we are unemployed we slip up in our dressing etc... but all it takes it one slip up and many will follow.

3. Exercise. Seriously please do. When we're not working we have tons of time on our hand and can easily lead to laying around doing nothing. This is terrible for our physical and mental health. Exercise keeps us alert for any possible job interviews and not make us depress.

When i was unemployed before... i gave up and regress. I ended up spending all my savings smoking (more than i was during work), eating badly and doing nothing. Although i did found a job later on but all i became was fat and sicky.

This time i am watching my diet and exercise. It is helping me to stay in shape and keeping me sane.

So guys and girls, please do. It costs almost nothing to exercise and choosing the right diet won't cost much that what we are already eating. Take this negative period and turn it into a positive self improvement period. Maybe we can even emerge better looking and healthier.

Cheers!
To add on. Do remember to have ton of sex as well. Sexual activities keeps one alert and strong and attractive there are many scientific evidence on this! Those that do not have as partner. Can try geylang as well.
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Yes, I had quitted too like you after 1 month. In my previous job I was nearly raped by my boss, and was indecently touched several times as well. Did u got sexually harassed as well?
Are you kidding ? Go back to your sammyboy forum please

This is a place for serious discussion.
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Are you kidding ? Go back to your sammyboy forum please

This is a place for serious discussion.
Itís Should be real. I Rmb reading a news article that sexual harassment is rampant in Sg.
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Itís Should be real. I Rmb reading a news article that sexual harassment is rampant in Sg.
I am the personal safety poster. No, my case is not about anything sexual at all.

And no one is giving constructive suggestion to my question. Whether I should quit my new job due to personal safety and it has nothing to do with anything sexual at all.
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s://.gulf-insider.com/saudi-expat-terminated-for-dismissing-30-saudis/

The Ministry of Labor branch in the Eastern Province of Saudi Arabia has reinstated 30 Saudis in their jobs following their dismissal by an expatriate, who took advantage of his post in the human resources management.

His decision clearly contravened the regulations, which forbid non-Saudis occupying such posts.

The Director General of the Ministry of Labor and Social Development in the Eastern Province Abdulrahman Bin Fahd Al-Muqbil said the ministryís branch followed up on the case which went viral on social media.
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