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Unregistered 08-01-2014 12:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 47095)
Sorry to bump up this thread, but does anyone know what the average salarly for an Social Sciences Professor is? Thanks!
Well, the pay scale really depends on your ability, experience and the spectrum of tasks you take on. Some profs only teach, they earn less than profs that both teach and do research. But the average prof earns about 5-6k with experience.

chase78 09-01-2014 12:33 PM
I was just reading. Well it is not easy to be an academic. A lot depends on the university's focus. If it is research in a competitive field, and you do not publish into top journals... then you will not get tenure. After that, where will you go? Australia universities?

Some areas are easier, for example a practitioner focused course. Then you can publish in the 2nd to 3rd tier journal.

If you are on teaching track, it is less glamourous but less stressful.

Typically, depending on the University. less than half of PHD students, get employed as Asst Professors.

A professor needs to be perfect. Good soft skills, good networking skills (to get your paper published), good teaching, good listener, good motivator, good time management, good research skills, ability to think out of box for research...

Unregistered 09-01-2014 04:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 47099)
Well, the pay scale really depends on your ability, experience and the spectrum of tasks you take on. Some profs only teach, they earn less than profs that both teach and do research. But the average prof earns about 5-6k with experience.
this is totally inaccurate. here is a more equitable rate.

Asst Profs (Pre-tenure) - ~ 80-130k PA
Assoc Prof/Prof (Tenured) - ~ > 200k PA

just to note:

this includes bonuses
this excludes housing allowance that is provided for by the universities
4 local Autonomous Unis do not pay for education of offspring
relocation allowance is one-off
only 30% of asst profs make tenure after 6-8 years. those who fail are given one year "transition" to leave the university and find another job

Unregistered 18-01-2014 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 47142)
this is totally inaccurate. here is a more equitable rate.

Asst Profs (Pre-tenure) - ~ 80-130k PA
Assoc Prof/Prof (Tenured) - ~ > 200k PA

just to note:

this includes bonuses
this excludes housing allowance that is provided for by the universities
4 local Autonomous Unis do not pay for education of offspring
relocation allowance is one-off
only 30% of asst profs make tenure after 6-8 years. those who fail are given one year "transition" to leave the university and find another job
Only 30%? Any source to verify these claims? Thanks!

lordlad 21-01-2014 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 29515)
All right, fair enough. Somewhat do agree with what you said.

I guess it goes down to the level of understanding each candidate can bring to the job. I don't deny that those Vietnamese programmers you hire can get some jobs yet.

Yet, I feel that a Stanford PhD (since that is what the OP is aiming at) can bring in new knowledge that produces a about a better solution viz-a-viz those done by the programmers you mentioned.

Right of the top of my head and I'm not trying to show off or be verbose here:

1. Parallel programming on a GPU (undergrad would at best take a single course on GPU programming. PhDs develop and understand better the theory)

2. Machine Learning for signal detection (a PhD would throughout the course of his thesis applied machine learning to numerous problems. An undergrad probably just learnt PCM* and did a two week project on it)

3. Use of appropriate algorithms (perhaps here the PhD and undergrad can be on par. Nonetheless, doing and using algorithms for two years compared to two semesters inevitably suggest more familiarity with it for the PhD than the undergrad)

My point is that a bachelors degree equips one with fundamental knowledge, a PhD with specific knowledge in a specific area. Depending on the job, sometimes both the bachelors and PhD survive, sometimes only the PhD survives. I can trust a Vietnamese programmer to write a multithreaded console program to read and display text from a server to a screen. I won't trust a Vietnamese programmer with at most one year of experience, to tear up a Linux kernel and write a customer memory manager taken from some IBM publication written in the 1980s. (I've seen some of those, they scare the freak out of me.)

*Principle Component Analysis
GPGPU (or GPU Compute) is still a relative 'young' industry (at least in its application).....Companies like Nvidia are currently doing it and pushing it though with their Nvidia GPU based server racks...its application probably more for data crunching, catastrophic financial modeling.

The need for that is still young in the industry at the moment but as it's still emerging, i do feel it's good to start now.

Unregistered 03-12-2014 01:48 PM
Really?
 
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 25490)
I think should be more. i already earn almost 100k annually. And i'm teaching at poly.
Really, what do you teach in Poly? May I know which poly?
As I know, the teacher earns only 4k-5k per month in poly.

mangos47 03-12-2014 02:18 PM
I've had master student who went on to pursue PhD or do postdoc in US/UK etc. and come back start assist.prof career. It is in fact not that difficult since local Universities also want to have more Singaporean-born professors to balance the team (lots of Chinese/Indian professor hired in last two decades so the ratio of local was kinda of a problem)

I'd say study hard and aim for a top PhD program in US/UK early on is a good strategy. You can focus more on theoretical research and publications if doing academia is your ultimate goal.

Pay-wise I know fresh PhD from US top schools join NUS and get 120k/year. My professor who has been with NUS ECE for 25 years when I was in school draws about 250k/year and prabably more now. It also depends on faculty. CS professor maybe similar to engineering. Business and law tends to make more especially if got consultation side-job. Medicine and dental professors are usually also practicing in NUS as well and their pay is way higher.

But being a professor the first 5-10 years is not easy. Getting funding and generating publication to earn tenure is no easy task for young graduates.

mangos47 03-12-2014 02:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 25401)
anyone know how much adjunct faculty paid?
in
NUS
NTU
SMU
Polys
ITE
SIT
I have colleagues being adjunct faculty in NUS, and they are NOT getting paid. It is for free, but you build up some experience and connection which later can help you secure a regular academic position. I don't know for other schools.

mangos47 03-12-2014 02:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Henney (Post 29896)
my 2 cents about the professor profession.

It seems a pretty good life if you love doing research and are committed to academic type of work. A close assistant professor from university of michigan of mine only meets his boss once or twice a year. The objective of the annual meeting is to receive compliment from his Boss "great job you did!" Other than that, the whole entire year you work on your own research and present at annual marketing..finance.. operations conferences.. depending on what field you are in.. you get to stay at nice hotels and meet smart people..

he's paid 15k per month only 32 years old. damn.
US universities pay 9-months usually and the rest depends on funding that the professor can find. Actually professors' pay in Singapore is higher than that in US in average. More so considering the much lower tax here.

mangos47 03-12-2014 02:44 PM
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Originally Posted by chase78 (Post 47135)
A professor needs to be perfect. Good soft skills, good networking skills (to get your paper published), good teaching, good listener, good motivator, good time management, good research skills, ability to think out of box for research...
This is not true. In fact a lots of people choose professor to be away from politics and networking that they not good at - the old saying of hiding in the ivory tower. Professor largely get promoted and paid for their research works. I don't know where you get the impression that networking get publication. For some 'junk' conferences which nowadays is mainly for socializing in the first place, maybe. For decent journal papers and some high-impact conferences, it is always anonymously peer-reviewed and people have connection with the authors usually avoid taking up the review job. And for tenure evaluation, it is almost always the later type of publication that counts.

mangos47 03-12-2014 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 59603)
Really, what do you teach in Poly? May I know which poly?
As I know, the teacher earns only 4k-5k per month in poly.
I have a junior phd labmates who joined poly as a lecturer after working in a research center for 6 years and she is paid around 6k/month. I've seen in this board that senior lecturers in poly eary 7-9k/month.

mangos47 03-12-2014 02:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Donny (Post 29515)
All right, fair enough. Somewhat do agree with what you said.

I guess it goes down to the level of understanding each candidate can bring to the job. I don't deny that those Vietnamese programmers you hire can get some jobs yet.

Yet, I feel that a Stanford PhD (since that is what the OP is aiming at) can bring in new knowledge that produces a about a better solution viz-a-viz those done by the programmers you mentioned.

Right of the top of my head and I'm not trying to show off or be verbose here:

1. Parallel programming on a GPU (undergrad would at best take a single course on GPU programming. PhDs develop and understand better the theory)

2. Machine Learning for signal detection (a PhD would throughout the course of his thesis applied machine learning to numerous problems. An undergrad probably just learnt PCM* and did a two week project on it)

3. Use of appropriate algorithms (perhaps here the PhD and undergrad can be on par. Nonetheless, doing and using algorithms for two years compared to two semesters inevitably suggest more familiarity with it for the PhD than the undergrad)

My point is that a bachelors degree equips one with fundamental knowledge, a PhD with specific knowledge in a specific area. Depending on the job, sometimes both the bachelors and PhD survive, sometimes only the PhD survives. I can trust a Vietnamese programmer to write a multithreaded console program to read and display text from a server to a screen. I won't trust a Vietnamese programmer with at most one year of experience, to tear up a Linux kernel and write a customer memory manager taken from some IBM publication written in the 1980s. (I've seen some of those, they scare the freak out of me.)

*Principle Component Analysis
Most likely you didn't do a phd. If you did you'll know PhD is not about doing things better than undergrad or masters, but about digging very deep in a very narrow area, which usually is of little to no practical value in the near future. When it comes to practical job skills, PhDs are often no better than their peers who joined the workforce early and had earned some experience. In my group, PhD staff design algorithms and build protetype with C, Matlab or even fortran, while the actual development of production code is handled by undergrad staff in java, c++/c# or whatever cutting edge tools there is.

If OP's goal is academia, he can safely bypass c++, java, GPGPU and stuff afer passing the course. he shall instead focus on algorithms, math those theoretical stuff.

mangos47 03-12-2014 03:00 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 31714)
Got a friend with fresh phd offered teaching job at a Poly only on a $4K pm salary. isnt it too low?
4k x (12+1(aws)+3~4(bonus)) roughly 4k x 16.5, I'd say not all that bad, considering the very flexible working hours and stableness.

mangos47 03-12-2014 03:04 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 34464)
I don't think just because they teach in business schools, they receive much more remuneration. It must be fair to other professors as well due to similar job scopes.

Based on my estimation, assoc professors should earn somewhere above 6k. Full fledged probably at about 8k +. Unless you are in harvard.. then.. but i think NBS and NUS should be around that range. Not typically quite high flyers on salary. But if you wish to join academia, that's something you should have thought about at the start.
The major matters a lot actually. becoz business school professors can find consultation jobs in private sectors that pays very decently, how many would want to stay in school if they're not paid competitively? also business schools obviously get more endorsement/donation than some other schools like arts.

Unregistered 10-01-2015 06:39 AM
Does anyone know what could be paid as starting salary for an assistant professor in Chemistry/Physics/Biology at NUS? I got hold a PhD from a European University and have 3 years PostDoc experience from an Ivy League school.

mrleafeon 17-02-2015 11:11 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 61184)
Does anyone know what could be paid as starting salary for an assistant professor in Chemistry/Physics/Biology at NUS? I got hold a PhD from a European University and have 3 years PostDoc experience from an Ivy League school.
I also want to know.

Unregistered 18-02-2015 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 61184)
Does anyone know what could be paid as starting salary for an assistant professor in Chemistry/Physics/Biology at NUS? I got hold a PhD from a European University and have 3 years PostDoc experience from an Ivy League school.
between $80~120k per annum.

Unregistered 22-04-2015 02:24 AM
salary
 
Got an offer from NUS this year...215k SGD

Unregistered 22-04-2015 02:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65784)
Got an offer from NUS this year...215k SGD
Should also mention that this is an assistant prof position.

Unregistered 26-04-2015 10:16 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65784)
Got an offer from NUS this year...215k SGD
that's pretty damn high for a asst prof. how old are you and what discipline are you in?

Unregistered 26-04-2015 11:55 AM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65784)
Got an offer from NUS this year...215k SGD
I kind of doubt the validity of this claim. Is that even a possible salary range for asst profs? Assistant profs aren't even tenured. If an asst prof is taking 215k, what does a full prof make in your field? A million a year? I doubt that universities would even part with that kind of money, unless its a rockstar researcher.

Just take a walk at the carparks of NTU and NUS. The cars there do not look like they belong to people who make that kind of money. Most of the asst profs in my field and university here barely have enough for a car. The only asst prof in my small field that owns a vehicle owns a motorcycle. The rest of us arent even rich enough to get cars.

Tell us more, what field? Subject and specialisation? Or this would be considered simply a false claim.

Unregistered 27-04-2015 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by mangos47 (Post 59617)
Most likely you didn't do a phd. If you did you'll know PhD is not about doing things better than undergrad or masters, but about digging very deep in a very narrow area, which usually is of little to no practical value in the near future. When it comes to practical job skills, PhDs are often no better than their peers who joined the workforce early and had earned some experience. In my group, PhD staff design algorithms and build protetype with C, Matlab or even fortran, while the actual development of production code is handled by undergrad staff in java, c++/c# or whatever cutting edge tools there is.

If OP's goal is academia, he can safely bypass c++, java, GPGPU and stuff afer passing the course. he shall instead focus on algorithms, math those theoretical stuff.
You have a delusional mind on your perception of R&D, asxhole.

I realize this forum are full of fake adviser.

Me R&D veteran.

You fcuking hell say that PHD do C while undergrads do C++/C#. You have no fcuking idea what these languages use for.

I am surprise your group throw Java, C++/C# to undergraduate. Your project must be too fcuking simple and full of bug.

The complexity of Java, C#/C++ requires years of years of experience.

You have too low opinion on PHDs. While some may like Matlab, they can be converter to good developer within a relative short period of time.

And the PHDs who do Matlab are mostly the EEEs signal type, and there are CS/EECS type of PHDs who are extremely good in algorithm and programming languages.


This forum is full of liars.

Unregistered 01-05-2015 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65784)
Got an offer from NUS this year...215k SGD
215K SGD from NUS for an Asst. Prof. position.
PFFFFTTT! Load of bull.

Unregistered 01-05-2015 07:29 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 66162)
215K SGD from NUS for an Asst. Prof. position.
PFFFFTTT! Load of bull.
I work in the HR in NTU three years back.

I can tell you Asst.Prof only get about 80K-100k (excluding bonus)
Assoc Prof roughly get about 120K-180K (excluding bonus).
A full Prof get about 200k-300K

This is considering them without holding appointments in the university.

Unregistered 01-05-2015 08:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 66172)
I work in the HR in NTU three years back.

I can tell you Asst.Prof only get about 80K-100k (excluding bonus)
Assoc Prof roughly get about 120K-180K (excluding bonus).
A full Prof get about 200k-300K

This is considering them without holding appointments in the university.
Bonus about extra 2~3 months.

Unregistered 02-05-2015 10:35 AM
annual package is nothing to shout, but it is the freedom to do the research is what makes it attractive to them. not forgetting each of them have few hundred k of budget just for going overseas conferences, buying laptops, engaging research assistant etc.

Unregistered 04-05-2015 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 65785)
Should also mention that this is an assistant prof position.
NUS assistant prof position at 215k is pure nonsense.

Unregistered 24-07-2015 09:54 PM
nus biz assistant profs all start at 200k
215 will be non-math depts like organizational behavior or consumer behavior
Fin/Acct will be around 230+

Unregistered 24-07-2015 09:55 PM
should also mention that S$200k+ for assistant professors in business schools is already slight below average salaries for R1 public schools in the US.

Unregistered 25-07-2015 01:47 PM
The complexity of Java, C#/C++ requires years of years of experience in a professional capacity. Not a phd capacity. A phd designs new algorithms. Not do more design patterns programming.



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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 66028)
You have a delusional mind on your perception of R&D, asxhole.

I realize this forum are full of fake adviser.

Me R&D veteran.

You fcuking hell say that PHD do C while undergrads do C++/C#. You have no fcuking idea what these languages use for.

I am surprise your group throw Java, C++/C# to undergraduate. Your project must be too fcuking simple and full of bug.

The complexity of Java, C#/C++ requires years of years of experience.

You have too low opinion on PHDs. While some may like Matlab, they can be converter to good developer within a relative short period of time.

And the PHDs who do Matlab are mostly the EEEs signal type, and there are CS/EECS type of PHDs who are extremely good in algorithm and programming languages.


This forum is full of liars.

Unregistered 29-11-2015 12:57 PM
I am a local fresh PhD grad, in the field of social sciences/humanities, with no postdoc experience. I have more than 5 lead author articles published in highly regarded journals in my field (ranked top 10), graduated with bachelor and master at NUS (itself a highly ranked global institution) and PhD from Oxbridge.

I have applied for a couple of jobs, most recently a shortlist at NTU (Singapore), for a tenure-track position in Asst Professorship.

A couple of questions here I hope to receive some friendly advice. Based on my profile, how much should I be expecting, say, between the starting package of 80k - 100k - any experienced commentator pertaining to this?

Also, is it reasonable for me to expect and negotiate for "more", in the SG academic job environment, based on the reputation of my degrees and the fact that I have already published pieces in some of the top journals in the field?

Unregistered 29-11-2015 03:06 PM
As your field of study is non-technical, i would not be so optimistic in terms of the salary to be offered.
5 journal publication in top tier is nothing unusual, but if you are awarded best paper or if your work is quoted in leading press, then that could be additional selling point.

Anything above $50k is reasonable.
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76038)
I am a local fresh PhD grad, in the field of social sciences/humanities, with no postdoc experience. I have more than 5 lead author articles published in highly regarded journals in my field (ranked top 10), graduated with bachelor and master at NUS (itself a highly ranked global institution) and PhD from Oxbridge.

I have applied for a couple of jobs, most recently a shortlist at NTU (Singapore), for a tenure-track position in Asst Professorship.

A couple of questions here I hope to receive some friendly advice. Based on my profile, how much should I be expecting, say, between the starting package of 80k - 100k - any experienced commentator pertaining to this?

Also, is it reasonable for me to expect and negotiate for "more", in the SG academic job environment, based on the reputation of my degrees and the fact that I have already published pieces in some of the top journals in the field?

Unregistered 29-11-2015 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76044)
As your field of study is non-technical, i would not be so optimistic in terms of the salary to be offered.
5 journal publication in top tier is nothing unusual, but if you are awarded best paper or if your work is quoted in leading press, then that could be additional selling point.

Anything above $50k is reasonable.
Thank you for your input.

I do not quite understand what you mean by "field of study is non-technical" and therefore not so optimistic over the salary?

I am quite surprised 5 publications in top tier journals is considered nothing unusual to you. As a fresh PhD graduate having already produced 5 single/lead authored papers is not common at all, in my opinion and based on my observations.

But I do agree with you that being quoted in leading press, or being awarded best paper, will definitely be a good point to sell the self.

Unregistered 29-11-2015 07:34 PM
50k per annum sounds a little too off the salary scale.

I recently saw a postdoc in the same faculty advertised for 6k per month, that makes it 72k per annum. And this is a postdoc position.

It would be a laughing stock for NTU to offer 50k at the minimum scale for tenure-track positions, given it's a global research university.

Unregistered 30-11-2015 02:49 PM
local uni b-sch pays its asst profs 20k a mth

Unregistered 30-11-2015 10:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76050)
Thank you for your input.

I do not quite understand what you mean by "field of study is non-technical" and therefore not so optimistic over the salary?

I am quite surprised 5 publications in top tier journals is considered nothing unusual to you. As a fresh PhD graduate having already produced 5 single/lead authored papers is not common at all, in my opinion and based on my observations.

But I do agree with you that being quoted in leading press, or being awarded best paper, will definitely be a good point to sell the self.
It is Nanyang Technological University. Hence, non technological subjects are simply less important and pay lesser. Even disregarding the technological biases of a technical university, the normal market normally pays humanities/social sciences much lesser anyway.

Unless you are an economics major, it is not surprising to get much lower pay. There is a large supply of humanities majors and low demand for them.

Unregistered 30-11-2015 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76050)
Thank you for your input.

I do not quite understand what you mean by "field of study is non-technical" and therefore not so optimistic over the salary?

I am quite surprised 5 publications in top tier journals is considered nothing unusual to you. As a fresh PhD graduate having already produced 5 single/lead authored papers is not common at all, in my opinion and based on my observations.

But I do agree with you that being quoted in leading press, or being awarded best paper, will definitely be a good point to sell the self.
This forum is known for its ********ters and self-certified experts. You are a joke for seeking advice on professorship here.





Or maybe you are a troll too.

Unregistered 01-12-2015 07:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 76121)
This forum is known for its ********ters and self-certified experts. You are a joke for seeking advice on professorship here.





Or maybe you are a troll too.
i am not . this is a serious question. Anyone able to comment on this?

Unregistered 02-12-2015 02:42 PM
Salary of university lecturer
 
This may be a good guide for you as it is based on Singapore:

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Unregistered 12-09-2017 11:10 AM
how much does an instructor make in NUS?


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