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tmb11152 01-04-2012 06:53 PM

where to get the best job?
 
Hi.

Im graduating with first class honours in mechanical engineering with a few internships(with mncs and gov) and overseas exchange experience under my belt. I have been active in student activities in school and held leadership positions.

What can i expect from the job market?

what is the highest pay i can ask for?

Where can i get the best pay with the best job prospect?

Bean 01-04-2012 09:13 PM

sign on SAF officer, fresh grad CPT 1st class getting = $5090 starting

Unregistered 01-04-2012 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by tmb11152 (Post 23164)
Hi.

Im graduating with first class honours in mechanical engineering with a few internships(with mncs and gov) and overseas exchange experience under my belt. I have been active in student activities in school and held leadership positions.

What can i expect from the job market?

what is the highest pay i can ask for?

Where can i get the best pay with the best job prospect?

NUS and NTU both bragged about their students starting with 20k salaries one or 2 years ago. You should aim higher.

Unregistered 02-04-2012 08:46 AM

Goal
 
What do you want to achieve in your life? You do have a goal, don't you?

Unregistered 02-04-2012 09:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 23186)
What do you want to achieve in your life? You do have a goal, don't you?

Setting goals is overrated. Adam Khoo set a goal, probably in hindsight, that he would be a millionaire by age 26, which he claimed he achieved. It seems totally arbitrary to me. Why not 27, 28 or 36?

What good does it make if you set a goal of let's say becoming a CEO of an SGX-listed company? And when you can't achieve it, what do you do?

Setting simple goals like trying to finish lunch punctually today is easily achievable but totally useless. Setting stretch targets like the one I mentioned above is equally useless if not demoralizing as well.

So what does one do? Set "realistic" goals? What are some examples?

Unregistered 02-04-2012 11:33 AM

For a first class honors graduate your questions are just plain naive. Think through and post a better set of questions

tmb11152 02-04-2012 12:27 PM

my passion is green energy. but working in the green business earns peanuts in singapore and i dont want to work in banks as i think they are highly inethical. I have to balance between passion and practibility. Where can i command the best pay with the good career prospect?

my intention is to get into a mnc, climb up the corporate ladder until i have steady financial backing and authority, before moving on to the green business to do my part.

Unregistered 02-04-2012 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by tmb11152 (Post 23206)
my passion is green energy. but working in the green business earns peanuts in singapore and i dont want to work in banks as i think they are highly inethical. I have to balance between passion and practibility. Where can i command the best pay with the good career prospect?

my intention is to get into a mnc, climb up the corporate ladder until i have steady financial backing and authority, before moving on to the green business to do my part.

To be honest, despite being a First Class Honours student there are still clear grammatical errors in the quote above.
"inethical" doesn't exist. "unethical" is the right term
"practibility" ?!... u meant to write "practicality"?

Also, as someone had already mentioned above, I had to agree that your questions showed that you lack 'depth' in your thought process.

Instead of demanding for "Where can i command the best pay with the good career prospect" (again, the use of "the" in this sentence is grammatically redundant), you should be considering 2 things:
what can you give & contribute to your employer?
what can you learn from the job and what the company can give you in return?

The more you can contribute to the firm, and the more skills you acquire and excel while performing your tasks for the benefits of the firm, the more value you generate as an employee.

Bean 02-04-2012 02:46 PM

come'on 1st class honours may not necessary be good in english man!!!

I have friends from JC, their 'A' level grades is AAAA or AAA with GP D7 or E8, they still get into NUS/NTU doing engineering and still getting 1st class honours!!!

So it doesnt really matter, dude!!!

Unregistered 02-04-2012 03:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Bean (Post 23214)
come'on 1st class honours may not necessary be good in english man!!!

I have friends from JC, their 'A' level grades is AAAA or AAA with GP D7 or E8, they still get into NUS/NTU doing engineering and still getting 1st class honours!!!

So it doesnt really matter, dude!!!

Just listen to Lim Swee Sway when he talks.

Unregistered 02-04-2012 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 23218)
Just listen to Lim Swee Sway when he talks.

Or Lui Tuck Yew.

Unregistered 02-04-2012 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Bean (Post 23214)
come'on 1st class honours may not necessary be good in english man!!!

I have friends from JC, their 'A' level grades is AAAA or AAA with GP D7 or E8, they still get into NUS/NTU doing engineering and still getting 1st class honours!!!

So it doesnt really matter, dude!!!

I'm the dude at 01:52 PM

You are absolutely right. First Class Honours may no necessarily be good at English. However, to climb up career ladder, ability to not only communicate but also to articulate well will get you far...

Just my 2 cents.

PS: First Class Honours Students are "an intersection" of Top Class Employees in Set Theory Universe...

Unregistered 02-04-2012 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by tmb11152 (Post 23164)
Hi.

Im graduating with first class honours in mechanical engineering with a few internships(with mncs and gov) and overseas exchange experience under my belt. I have been active in student activities in school and held leadership positions.

What can i expect from the job market?

what is the highest pay i can ask for?

Where can i get the best pay with the best job prospect?


The current job market is still pretty good. With 1st class honours, you will have good chance of getting shortlisted for most jobs (open to fresh graduates) that you applied for unless it requires a specific discipline.

For your first job, you need to consider one which provides you with the prospect, not go for the highest pay you can ask for.

Your third question is quite juvenile. It's akin to a teenager asking parents what should he be when he grow up? There is no such thing as the best pay with the best job prospect. There is always a tradeoff between risk and reward.

arigatoast 02-04-2012 08:33 PM

Dear TS,

your idea of climbing up the coporate ladder in a mnc is rather general.

a mnc can belong to any sector.

Unregistered 02-04-2012 09:47 PM

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Originally Posted by tmb11152 (Post 23164)
Hi.

Im graduating with first class honours in mechanical engineering with a few internships(with mncs and gov) and overseas exchange experience under my belt. I have been active in student activities in school and held leadership positions.

What can i expect from the job market?

what is the highest pay i can ask for?

Where can i get the best pay with the best job prospect?


As mechanical engineer, you can go into oil and gas or aviation.

Oil and gas is safe and steady. Pay is not too bad. Company is usually safe and steady. A recession proof industry.

Aviation is up and coming. If you specialise in this field, there will be endless opportunities in future.

I don't know about you but I will plan with what I will do and where I will be in 5 years.

tmb11152 02-04-2012 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 23235)
As mechanical engineer, you can go into oil and gas or aviation.

Oil and gas is safe and steady. Pay is not too bad. Company is usually safe and steady. A recession proof industry.

Aviation is up and coming. If you specialise in this field, there will be endless opportunities in future.

I don't know about you but I will plan with what I will do and where I will be in 5 years.

I have thought of working in the oil and gas industry but the prospect in these companies are not that good though they pay really well

Firstly there are plenty of first class graduates being recruited. Opportunity to climb will be restricted.
Secondly, these companies are super duper rich and they hire graduates to do jobs that are not usually associated with graduates. Like supervisor in a manufacturing line is considered a promotion after a few years working in the company. Resulting in not relevant job experience and hence less job hopping opportunities.

Unregistered 02-04-2012 11:32 PM

1st. blesseen
 
come on lah, give the TS a break. Why are there always so many people in this forum who like to correct other peoples english? Or are these comments all from the same person? That alone will not determine how well he will perform in his future job.

Unregistered 03-04-2012 10:16 AM

The problem with TS is he comes up with all these loafty goals wanting the best in everything, but yet he himself is unable to articulate what he has to offer.

All he has done so far is to announce that he's got a first class honours in a local university and demonstrated poor written English. If you want the best in life, you should be prepared to offer the best.

Unregistered 04-04-2012 05:13 PM

wah piangz, do you guys even articulate in queen's english in office. sure a not arh

Unregistered 04-04-2012 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by tmb11152 (Post 23240)
I have thought of working in the oil and gas industry but the prospect in these companies are not that good though they pay really well

Firstly there are plenty of first class graduates being recruited. Opportunity to climb will be restricted.
Secondly, these companies are super duper rich and they hire graduates to do jobs that are not usually associated with graduates. Like supervisor in a manufacturing line is considered a promotion after a few years working in the company. Resulting in not relevant job experience and hence less job hopping opportunities.

you are spot on on this. i have a first as well and have worked in an O&G company. i left and move to other mncs. now i am a regional vp while my peer who stayed on is a senior project manager. maybe he is paid more than me, i am not sure. but i have the exposure to the regional and travel 50% of my time. i have a big team reporting into me and am responsible for p/l. i am not sure if i will get the same exposure had i stayed on.

tmb11152 05-04-2012 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 23305)
you are spot on on this. i have a first as well and have worked in an O&G company. i left and move to other mncs. now i am a regional vp while my peer who stayed on is a senior project manager. maybe he is paid more than me, i am not sure. but i have the exposure to the regional and travel 50% of my time. i have a big team reporting into me and am responsible for p/l. i am not sure if i will get the same exposure had i stayed on.

Did you get a pay cut when you move away from O&G company?


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