Oil and Gas support industries

Originally Posted by Unregistered

somewhat half correct.

i need to know what's the market rate.

let's say it's manufacturing related, how much do u think a fresh grad can ask for?

Its ard $3k for manufacturing related. Maybe more for some of the companies on your list.

But be aware that upside is quite limited, and progression is painfully slow if you are in the manufacturing side of things. And once you are in, its very hard to leave as its a rather specialised industry i.e. hard to find another job that will value your past experience and very few other jobs avail as many ppl stay in the jobs for a long time.

Also meaningful to check if the engineers are all 20+ yrs old. If so, big red flag - means that management is practicing a rotating door policy. i.e. they cannot pay well, so many fresh grads join, and after 2-3 yrs of lousy pay rises, and after understanding that there are no prospects, leave for other jobs... and management replaces them with another fresh grad because they just need a warm body & do not value experience in that role.

Having said that, if you can get to the client facing side of things (ie sales), money/prospects are very very good but lots of travelling.

Originally Posted by Unregistered

Its ard $3k for manufacturing related. Maybe more for some of the companies on your list.

But be aware that upside is quite limited, and progression is painfully slow if you are in the manufacturing side of things. And once you are in, its very hard to leave as its a rather specialised industry i.e. hard to find another job that will value your past experience and very few other jobs avail as many ppl stay in the jobs for a long time.

Also meaningful to check if the engineers are all 20+ yrs old. If so, big red flag - means that management is practicing a rotating door policy. i.e. they cannot pay well, so many fresh grads join, and after 2-3 yrs of lousy pay rises, and after understanding that there are no prospects, leave for other jobs... and management replaces them with another fresh grad because they just need a warm body & do not value experience in that role.

Having said that, if you can get to the client facing side of things (ie sales), money/prospects are very very good but lots of travelling.

That's a shame :S I thought companies like what the TS mentioned might actually have good career progression. I always thought that if you do stick it out with them and stay in the company for the long haul, you could end up being a project manager...which pays relatively well, no?

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Its ard $3k for manufacturing related. Maybe more for some of the companies on your list.

But be aware that upside is quite limited, and progression is painfully slow if you are in the manufacturing side of things. And once you are in, its very hard to leave as its a rather specialised industry i.e. hard to find another job that will value your past experience and very few other jobs avail as many ppl stay in the jobs for a long time.

Also meaningful to check if the engineers are all 20+ yrs old. If so, big red flag - means that management is practicing a rotating door policy. i.e. they cannot pay well, so many fresh grads join, and after 2-3 yrs of lousy pay rises, and after understanding that there are no prospects, leave for other jobs... and management replaces them with another fresh grad because they just need a warm body & do not value experience in that role.

Having said that, if you can get to the client facing side of things (ie sales), money/prospects are very very good but lots of travelling.

it's sad to hear that. means i have to jump ship after a year? i dont see a lot of young engineers in these companies.

i also intend to take masters while i work. should i take MBA or stick with engineering? What if i can perform and eventually become project manager? but that would take many year even if i do get there.

Yes, it's very specialised. you have stated my worries. but isnt that currently best deal for a fresh grad with only 2nd lower?

It's not specialized. You can gain oil and gas experience albeit in manufacturing. You should be able to apply for another job in the oil and gas industry quite easily in a different role perhaps with some experience in the future. From what I see, the skillset that pays well in manufacturing is six sigma. Try to get some experience and certification in it if you are keen to stay in manufacturing. If you dunno what's six sigma, you better go and google it.

Dun be too concerned about the starting pay. Be more concerned about the experience that you will gain. The money now is in subsea so try to get a role related to it. If you dunno what's subsea stuff, you better go do some research

Alternatively, if you like to travel, dun have commitments and can work offshore, try to get field role. All the extra offshore allowances can allow you to earn easily 5 digits per mth.

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

It's not specialized. You can gain oil and gas experience albeit in manufacturing. You should be able to apply for another job in the oil and gas industry quite easily in a different role perhaps with some experience in the future. From what I see, the skillset that pays well in manufacturing is six sigma. Try to get some experience and certification in it if you are keen to stay in manufacturing. If you dunno what's six sigma, you better go and google it.

Dun be too concerned about the starting pay. Be more concerned about the experience that you will gain. The money now is in subsea so try to get a role related to it. If you dunno what's subsea stuff, you better go do some research

Alternatively, if you like to travel, dun have commitments and can work offshore, try to get field role. All the extra offshore allowances can allow you to earn easily 5 digits per mth.

these companies offers six sigma(black belt) trainings to manufacturing engineers. hmm however the companies i listed is more into manufacturing rather than subsea. To be precise, the plants in SG are mostly for manufacturing. subsea shld be overseas. and overseas opportunities will not be given in recent years.

If i were to take up masters degree, shld i choose MBA? will MBA be useful in future?

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bring up my post.

will taking MBA be useful in future?

or shld i stick with masters in engineering?

Originally Posted by reavervon

bring up my post.

will taking MBA be useful in future?

or shld i stick with masters in engineering?

Both also useless... Of course unless your MBA is from Insead.. then congratulations!! If not, no need to waste your time and money on a masters that employers won't pay you extra $$...

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Originally Posted by Unregistered

Both also useless... Of course unless your MBA is from Insead.. then congratulations!! If not, no need to waste your time and money on a masters that employers won't pay you extra $$...

it's sad to hear that. i tot there will be increment especially with experience when we jump boat? no?

Anyone knows how many months of bonus in FMC technologies?

Hi, anyone knows which places can enroll for courses to get proper and necessary certifications to work on offshore rig..?
Thank you.