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Unregistered 18-01-2013 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 32355)
Very hard to switch to C&B unless your finance / business consulting knowledge is very strong. Doing SAP modules is very different from actual policy work.

For starters if you want to move into corporate HRIS most likely go in at associate or specialist level. AFAIK demand for HRIS is quite strong as there is shortage and should be able to find if you are patient.

People with a few years HRIS consulting experience go in as HRIS associate in a global MNC should be able to ask for 7.5-10k depending on how relevant your experience is.

Just google and see this: HR Assistant Manager Needed!! (C&B) Salary up to 5K!! - Search / Recruitment Firm

Not sure the indicated range include CPF, bonus etc

cslee 25-01-2013 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 32499)
Just google and see this: HR Assistant Manager Needed!! (C&B) Salary up to 5K!! - Search / Recruitment Firm

Not sure the indicated range include CPF, bonus etc

The job ad requirements of experience (e.g. ~5years) seem to match closely to the earlier post. But there is a huge discrepancy in C&B (i.e. max 5K vs 7.5-10K) for C&B HR personnel. Any insiders to comment?

Unregistered 27-01-2013 05:57 PM

Considering switch
 
Dear all almighty HR/Recruiters, I have 5+ yrs exp in banking sector. If I wish to make a career switch to become recruitment consultant for the banking sector, how much basic pay /pay cut can I expect? Not sure if my previous exp in banking would be considered by hiring recruiters. My current basic 6k. Thanks.

cslee 28-01-2013 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 32752)
Dear all almighty HR/Recruiters, I have 5+ yrs exp in banking sector. If I wish to make a career switch to become recruitment consultant for the banking sector, how much basic pay /pay cut can I expect? Not sure if my previous exp in banking would be considered by hiring recruiters. My current basic 6k. Thanks.

My understanding of recruitment consultant is not much different from a sale job. Hence, exp doesn't count much - it's your network that counts. Typically, the compensation = basic + commission. Those who did very well are those that can successful "match" high-level positions consistently e.g. 6 month salary etc. Not unlike those property agents that can "sell" sentosa cove properties all year round.

cslee 28-01-2013 10:19 PM

Similar to property agents, recruitment consultants need to match buyers (employers) and sellers (candidates) expectations. Typically, it involves asking sellers to "lower" their prices and "buyers" to up theirs. It's always in agents' interests to "inflate" prices.

Unregistered 04-02-2013 09:47 AM

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Originally Posted by cslee (Post 32703)
The job ad requirements of experience (e.g. ~5years) seem to match closely to the earlier post. But there is a huge discrepancy in C&B (i.e. max 5K vs 7.5-10K) for C&B HR personnel. Any insiders to comment?

This is an ops role that does mainly C&B admin. I would say 5k is way too high and probably just a catchy advert slogan, I expect they will likely offer 3.8 - 4.5k depending on exp. This is completely different from a C&B specialist role.

mythril 04-02-2013 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 32967)
This is an ops role that does mainly C&B admin. I would say 5k is way too high and probably just a catchy advert slogan, I expect they will likely offer 3.8 - 4.5k depending on exp. This is completely different from a C&B specialist role.

I am a recruiter and know which company because I was also approached by them to recruit a job with exactly the same JD. They have been spamming all the agencies for the past 6 months with this job.

It is a local subsidiary of an Indian conglomerate and I spoke to their HR Director who is clueless about the job market. Basically they are looking at someone with 5 years of MNC Asia Pacific C&B experience in strategy and policy. I was told the budget is "up to 5k" which I politely told them they would never be able to get anyone like that with this kind of pay

I advised they at least double the budget or make do with much lower requirements. The lady took offence and went on a tirade over how youngsters nowadays only want high pay. In the end I declined to take up the comission as I knew is just wasting time. Sure enough up till now so long already still no takers.

cslee 04-02-2013 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by mythril (Post 32970)
I am a recruiter and know which company because I was also approached by them to recruit a job with exactly the same JD. They have been spamming all the agencies for the past 6 months with this job.

It is a local subsidiary of an Indian conglomerate and I spoke to their HR Director who is clueless about the job market. Basically they are looking at someone with 5 years of MNC Asia Pacific C&B experience in strategy and policy. I was told the budget is "up to 5k" which I politely told them they would never be able to get anyone like that with this kind of pay

I advised they at least double the budget or make do with much lower requirements. The lady took offence and went on a tirade over how youngsters nowadays only want high pay. In the end I declined to take up the comission as I knew is just wasting time. Sure enough up till now so long already still no takers.

Not sure who's correct, as there're 2 conflicting posts. Assuming this post is correct, as the JD doesn't sound dead-end admins.

Well, if the HR director is only paid $6-7K, how can you expect her to pay her subordinate higher, rite? :p

mythril 04-02-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cslee (Post 32975)
Not sure who's correct, as there're 2 conflicting posts. Assuming this post is correct, as the JD doesn't sound dead-end admins.

Well, if the HR director is only paid $6-7K, how can you expect her to pay her subordinate higher, rite? :p

Just took a look at past correspondence and 99% confident is the same job I was told to recurit for half a year ago.

The JD is definitely not admin and my impression talking to the company is that they are looking for experienced specialist, but yet want to save on pay. The hiring HR Director seem to just peg the budget on her existing HR AMs who are generalist admin. Quite a nice lady character wise, but complete clueless on a professional level. Likely her pay <10k.

If they wait long enough might come across a jobless candidate desperate enough to take up, but probably CMI calibre.

Unregistered 05-02-2013 09:23 AM

5k budget for someone who suppose to do strategy design!?!? This company is dreaming


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