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Unregistered 20-09-2012 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by nobel (Post 28449)
*** Double post***

The quarterly quota is 50k, but no sharing for the first 20k. So that makes the incentive (50k - 20k) x 15% = $4500. So assume I meet quota in all 4 quarter then should be $4500 x 4 = $18,000. Works out to be ~5 months bonus if I can hit quota consistently for whole year.

Allowance not much only $200 monthly mainly for handphone.

both your basic & incentive is on par with market esp. for bigger recruitment consultancies, you should just accept the offer esp. consider you have no work exp.

the quota and sharing threshold is a bit low, most companies will increase once you finish probation, so better to ask them how is the process like in case get caught by surprise 6 months later.

nobel 20-09-2012 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 28451)
experiences ???????

Nothing solid except for a 3 month internship with Oracle a year ago.

nobel 20-09-2012 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 28458)
both your basic & incentive is on par with market esp. for bigger recruitment consultancies, you should just accept the offer esp. consider you have no work exp.

the quota and sharing threshold is a bit low, most companies will increase once you finish probation, so better to ask them how is the process like in case get caught by surprise 6 months later.

Thanks greatly for your help!

I will ask the hirer about the quota after probation when I go down to sign the offer tomorrow.

Unregistered 21-09-2012 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 28444)
Basically one born in a Baby boomer era vs a Y generation era mentality.

The Y Gen talk about freedom, it is a must to give them as we owe them while the Baby boomer talk about seniority, respect etc

So whom is right?

Times have changed. Most companies are not into rank and all levels of employees are free to talk to CEO or Board Directors as open door policy, just that some older people refuse to acknowledge this fact, still trap in fantasy like you need xx years experience, yy credibility or zz rank before you can approach top managers. If a hr consultant like the arrogant idiots earlier cannot even understand this simple fact, then I dont know what to say.

Unregistered 21-09-2012 01:54 PM

Seriously some of the so call HR consultant here so good at talking c0ck should not waste their talents and join the sales industry instead... Just join first job after school can friend friend with Board of Director, CEO, CFO, COO, whatever. CEO for Tan Ah Kow Pte Ltd har? I hope nobody is stupid enough to believe ...

Unregistered 08-10-2012 10:41 AM

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Hi Guys,

I see the thread has been growing! But lets be objective and help each other out. (I.e. dont shoot down my qns/ opinions/ comments)

Just need some advice... I'm currently in my final year (UOL) doing full time, biz degree, expecting to grad 2nd upper. Male. Really keen on going into the HR field... Just need some advice on possible salary to state when i apply for job?

Some background info/ working experience:
- HR project officer (FMCG) temp for 3 mths (during vacation)
- HR L&D, Admin assistant (Bank) Part-time / temp for 10 mths
- HR Intern - Recruitment (bank) for 3 mths (during vacation)
- HR Intern (Oil & Gas) current

Understand the range is 2.4k to 3.5k.
Should go with 3k?

Thanks in advance

Unregistered 08-10-2012 02:59 PM

It really depends on what sort of job, you need to be more specific. HR has many kinds of jobs from low level admin to high level mgt consultants. So far your experience seems to be temp admin, this will not be worth anything when you finish school. If you want to stick with generalist admin HR Exec, 3k is too high & possible only for public sector with honors and NS, market is 2 - 2.4k for fresh grad in pte sector

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 28831)
Hi Guys,

I see the thread has been growing! But lets be objective and help each other out. (I.e. dont shoot down my qns/ opinions/ comments)

Just need some advice... I'm currently in my final year (UOL) doing full time, biz degree, expecting to grad 2nd upper. Male. Really keen on going into the HR field... Just need some advice on possible salary to state when i apply for job?

Some background info/ working experience:
- HR project officer (FMCG) temp for 3 mths (during vacation)
- HR L&D, Admin assistant (Bank) Part-time / temp for 10 mths
- HR Intern - Recruitment (bank) for 3 mths (during vacation)
- HR Intern (Oil & Gas) current

Understand the range is 2.4k to 3.5k.
Should go with 3k?

Thanks in advance


cslee 08-10-2012 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 28833)
It really depends on what sort of job, you need to be more specific. HR has many kinds of jobs from low level admin to high level mgt consultants. So far your experience seems to be temp admin, this will not be worth anything when you finish school. If you want to stick with generalist admin HR Exec, 3k is too high & possible only for public sector with honors and NS, market is 2 - 2.4k for fresh grad in pte sector

Agreed. For HR admin roles, it's about there. The real big money is earned by the HR sale ppl ~$100K - $300K p.a (a.k.a. recruitment consultants/head-hunters etc) and the HR firm business owners.

Unregistered 09-10-2012 04:50 PM

Hey thanks for the reply.

Actually not really admin role ah.... yes, do have to do admin stuff, but like 20% of the time? Like when i got time than do...

Most of my past experience are like to do with projects...
- Did an employee survey for the company (pretty big FMCG firm...) the full works from design to analysis and presentation.
- At the banks did employee engagement projects, process streamlining and improvement, design workflow and BAU stuff....
- Currently i'm doing projects also... rolling out staff handbook for APAC region and improvement to L&D programmes and some coordination for training.

I'm sure those are not really admin work like printing and doing filing... haha...

For the role wise, i've yet to apply for any jobs... just asking like "what do you think" i should ask for?
Obviously i will nt apply for some simple HR admin job la... lol...

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 28833)
It really depends on what sort of job, you need to be more specific. HR has many kinds of jobs from low level admin to high level mgt consultants. So far your experience seems to be temp admin, this will not be worth anything when you finish school. If you want to stick with generalist admin HR Exec, 3k is too high & possible only for public sector with honors and NS, market is 2 - 2.4k for fresh grad in pte sector


cross_heaven 09-10-2012 05:26 PM

These 2 postings by you contradict each other:

Post #1

Quote:

Some background info/ working experience:
- HR project officer (FMCG) temp for 3 mths (during vacation)
- HR L&D, Admin assistant (Bank) Part-time / temp for 10 mths
- HR Intern - Recruitment (bank) for 3 mths (during vacation)
- HR Intern (Oil & Gas) current
Post #2
Quote:

... employee survey for pretty big FMCG firm... the full works from design to analysis and presentation.
... employee engagement projects, process streamlining and improvement, design workflow and BAU stuff....
- Currently i'm doing projects also... rolling out staff handbook for APAC region and improvement to L&D programmes and some coordination for training.
The jobs you claim you did are very much senior BP / specialist level while your previous experiences are all like temp diploma summer jobs - officer, admin assistant, recruiter, intern etc.

I can understand the need to exaggerate a little in your CV and job interviews, but my 2 cents advice is you better tone down on all these big words. Both your academic qualification and low level temp jobs do not support this super high flier strategic image you are trying to create, can end up quite embarrassing if you meet some guai lan interviewer who decide to tekan you.


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