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Unregistered 03-08-2016 09:55 PM

Senior Compensation and Benefits Analyst APAC
The Kraft Heinz Company
s://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/174578233

Unregistered 12-08-2016 08:38 AM

Moving to HR
 
Hi guys, wondered if you could give me some advice. I'm in banking ops for 5 years but there is no work life balance and earning 2.5k. I have a degree in business administration and was thinking to transition into HR. Do I need to take any courses or certifications to help me get in to HR? With my working experience, what type of HR job and salary can I hope for in the current market? Thanks!

Unregistered 12-08-2016 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 89415)
Hi guys, wondered if you could give me some advice. I'm in banking ops for 5 years but there is no work life balance and earning 2.5k. I have a degree in business administration and was thinking to transition into HR. Do I need to take any courses or certifications to help me get in to HR? With my working experience, what type of HR job and salary can I hope for in the current market? Thanks!

Likely HR Officer/Exec roles, but I don't think it's easy to get an offer without any experience. Salary should be around 2.5k also.

Where is your degree from? FT or PT? Quite amazing you work 5 years in the bank and still at the salary level of fresh dip grads.

Unregistered 13-08-2016 12:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 89437)
Likely HR Officer/Exec roles, but I don't think it's easy to get an offer without any experience. Salary should be around 2.5k also.

Where is your degree from? FT or PT? Quite amazing you work 5 years in the bank and still at the salary level of fresh dip grads.

Studied in Malaysia but cert is from UK. FT. Yeah to be honest I've been there too long as it's comfortable. Sometimes leave 9-10 and with that pay it's terrible.

I want to move out of banking... Would a CEI cert help as I have no experience?

I really wouldn't mind try anything to move industry haha :)

Unregistered 14-08-2016 01:11 PM

What I don't understand is why HR is considered a good career path. What do HR people actually do all day? For a HR person with, say, 15 years of experience, does it actually take only 1 to learn?

I find it hilarious how HR people are so full of themselves just because they are responsible for recruitment. Once people are actually hired, people have pretty poor impressions of HR. The HR people I've met seem to have to over-compensate for a diminished sense of self-importance and constantly justify why HR is such a difficult job.

I'm not denying that HR, like other departments, have a role to fulfil, but surely it's not that hard. So what do HR people do, that can't otherwise be taught/learned relatively quickly?

Unregistered 14-08-2016 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 89477)
What I don't understand is why HR is considered a good career path. What do HR people actually do all day? For a HR person with, say, 15 years of experience, does it actually take only 1 to learn?

I find it hilarious how HR people are so full of themselves just because they are responsible for recruitment. Once people are actually hired, people have pretty poor impressions of HR. The HR people I've met seem to have to over-compensate for a diminished sense of self-importance and constantly justify why HR is such a difficult job.

I'm not denying that HR, like other departments, have a role to fulfil, but surely it's not that hard. So what do HR people do, that can't otherwise be taught/learned relatively quickly?

Recruitment is just a small and lower level function of HR just like Accounting is to Finance. Perhaps you should educate yourself more before ranting your ignorance everywhere.

Unregistered 15-08-2016 02:24 PM

Thanks for your answer, though not very informative. What are the higher level functions in HR then? I am genuinely interested to find out (not being sarcastic here).

Unregistered 15-08-2016 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 89499)
Thanks for your answer, though not very informative. What are the higher level functions in HR then? I am genuinely interested to find out (not being sarcastic here).

Try changing the culture of a Fortune 500 US MNC with >20,000 headcount globally.. or succession planning for the C-suite of a similar sized company.

Oh. the world you have not seen.

Unregistered 15-08-2016 04:03 PM

Wait... there is the Compensation and Benefits team too. How much should you be paying your top talent?

If I want to move my manufacturing plant >5,000 headcount from China to Bangladesh, what are the implications?

Unregistered 15-08-2016 04:07 PM

What? You had no idea these jobs in HR existed?

The stuff you described is a subset of the entire function called 'OPERATIONAL HR'.

Unregistered 15-08-2016 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 89499)
Thanks for your answer, though not very informative. What are the higher level functions in HR then? I am genuinely interested to find out (not being sarcastic here).

The problem is usually you need to have reach at least a certain level in a large mnc to understand what goes on behind the scenes. It is not easy to explain things like organization effectiveness, change management, workforce planning, talent pipeline & risk mitigation, EVP positioning, rewards strategy, manpower cost modelling, labour relations, M&A due diligence etc. - all sound like fluffy big words to you.

One way to look at it is to see the HR people you interact with as customer service execs. Instead of serving customers, they serve employees instead like hearing your grouses, helping you with admin, administering payroll, helping you to interview, answering your questions on policy etc. While you need them in the company, nobody will equate these jobs as strategic or influential in the company.

dreamer. 18-08-2016 10:55 AM

what qualifications are required to take up a job in HR?

Unregistered 18-08-2016 04:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 89499)
Thanks for your answer, though not very informative. What are the higher level functions in HR then? I am genuinely interested to find out (not being sarcastic here).

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Unregistered 20-08-2016 03:46 PM

Global Mobility Analyst
Mondelēz International
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/183925156

Senior Manager, Rewards Project - AMEA
Mondelēz International
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/188497420

Rewards Analyst, AMEA
Mondelēz International
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/188773157

Compensation and Benefits Manager ( Budgeting)
The Kraft Heinz Company
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/188555142

Total Rewards and Zero-Based Budgeting Manager
The Kraft Heinz Company
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/188470836

Senior HR Analyst
The Kraft Heinz Company
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/175413259

Unregistered 20-08-2016 03:49 PM

Human Resources Manager
Richemont
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/186338941

Assistant Human Resources Manager
Richemont
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/192262218

HR Analyst (6 months contract)
Trafigura
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/172629455

Unregistered 22-08-2016 03:53 PM

but I only have two
mths of recuritment experience and want to try HR role . but most companies want people with at least a year experience
is it wise to take up few mths contract HR jobs to gain experience? but I need find jobs soon again after contract again

- signing off
dragonite8888

Unregistered 22-08-2016 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 89741)
but I only have two
mths of recuritment experience and want to try HR role . but most companies want people with at least a year experience
is it wise to take up few mths contract HR jobs to gain experience? but I need find jobs soon again after contract again

- signing off
dragonite8888

your options are

1.take up contract
2.jobless

easy choice to me.

Unregistered 23-08-2016 09:10 PM

Regional Head of Recruitment, Asia
Save the Children International
://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/193556375

Unregistered 26-08-2016 11:37 PM

Assistant HR Manager
://.jobstreet.com.sg/en/job/assistant-hr-manager-5417427

Unregistered 03-09-2016 03:27 AM

Hi guys, I was wondering if I could get some advice on this. I recently graduated with a law degree and planning to venture in HR. Do I have to start from the bottom of the chain with applying for admin jobs? What is the career progression like for more specialised HR career?

Unregistered 03-09-2016 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 90092)
Hi guys, I was wondering if I could get some advice on this. I recently graduated with a law degree and planning to venture in HR. Do I have to start from the bottom of the chain with applying for admin jobs? What is the career progression like for more specialised HR career?

My suggestion is not to waste your degree on something like HR. You will need to start off as some sort of HR Exec doing mainly admin and customer service work. It will probably take you at least 5 years to get to what you get as a fresh grad lawyer.

If you don't like law, there are a lot of other jobs out there that can better make use of your talent.

Unregistered 03-09-2016 01:40 PM

Salary advise
 
Can someone advise what salary a foreign worker looking for HR jobs in recruitment and training should ask for in interviews? The person in question is on DP, with 4.5 years of experience in IT recruitment and training overseas, one year of which is in APAC. A few interviews attended went well but didn't convert to an offer, primary suspect being the compensation asked for.

Thanks

Unregistered 03-09-2016 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 90099)
Can someone advise what salary a foreign worker looking for HR jobs in recruitment and training should ask for in interviews? The person in question is on DP, with 4.5 years of experience in IT recruitment and training overseas, one year of which is in APAC. A few interviews attended went well but didn't convert to an offer, primary suspect being the compensation asked for.

Thanks

Jr recruiter basic range from 1.5-2.5k + commissions if sales kpi is met.

Unregistered 03-09-2016 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 90109)
Jr recruiter basic range from 1.5-2.5k + commissions if sales kpi is met.

Even with CEI Basic? That's quite low. And I guess I know the reasons for rejection now. Quoted expectation was 3K.

Unregistered 04-09-2016 10:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 90115)
Even with CEI Basic? That's quite low. And I guess I know the reasons for rejection now. Quoted expectation was 3K.

Erm... don't think anyone cares about CEI, it's just a standard cert that people 'buy' because it's required in the industry. Recruiter is basically a sales job and they tend to pay pretty low monthly basic.

The idea is you need to meet targets to unlock the incentives to top up the basic salary. Some recruiters are not even paid any basic and operate solely on commission/advance.

Unregistered 17-09-2016 03:49 PM

In my 8th year as a hr professional and just managed to hit 90k per annum basic. HR mainly have 2 kinds of working environment. Either very open culture which is no or minimal politics within the department as everyone knows how small hr community is so better be friends than be bad name...the other is politics and backstabbing which theres a lot of such espeically those who stay long in a company...HR is more than just recruitment. There are business partners, rewards, learning and development, hr ops and some even have hrit parked under hr functions...

The good thing i like in hr is knowing a lot of people but most wanted to know you for job lobangs only.

Unregistered 29-09-2016 09:21 PM

Senior / HR Specialist
://.borougecareers.com/borouge/VacancyDetail.aspx?PageId=9451&VacancyID=116687&la ng=en-US

Unregistered 04-10-2016 11:04 PM

HR Data Analytics
The Kraft Heinz Company
s://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/196593084

HR Administration Associate
Swiss Re
s://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/215492549

HR Specialist (Career Management & Training)
Total
s://.linkedin.com/jobs/view/197551054

Unregistered 01-11-2016 11:18 PM

HR Administrator (1 year contract)
://.jobstreet.com.sg/en/job/hr-administrator-1-year-contract-5516054?fr=21

Unregistered 22-12-2016 07:27 PM

WWF - Senior Specialist, Compensation & Benefits / Mobility

://wwf.panda.org/who_we_are/jobs/?288198/Senior-Specialist-Compensation--Benefits--Mobility

Unregistered 31-12-2016 04:37 PM

Manager/ Associate Director (Learning)
Temasek Foundation Management Services

://.jobstreet.com.sg/en/job/5605702/origin/sg

Unregistered 24-02-2017 02:12 PM

Hi, I am a student in private uni bcs management program. From what I have read it seems to be really unlikely for a private grad to secure a job with good prospect in specialized field. So here are my questions:
If I am keen on taking up internship, what kind of companies are possible for candidates like me?
If getting into specialised hr field is unlikely, I would be more interested in doing recruitment than to do a generalist work. Anyone care to share the path of a recruiter?
Thanks in advance for the help.

Unregistered 24-02-2017 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 94916)
Hi, I am a student in private uni bcs management program. From what I have read it seems to be really unlikely for a private grad to secure a job with good prospect in specialized field. So here are my questions:
If I am keen on taking up internship, what kind of companies are possible for candidates like me?
If getting into specialised hr field is unlikely, I would be more interested in doing recruitment than to do a generalist work. Anyone care to share the path of a recruiter?
Thanks in advance for the help.

Recruiters esp agencies are more sales than HR. You do not need to waste time on internship as they are the most open of all HR like sales and readily accept most people of any qualification or w/o exp. Whether you survive or not is another matter though.

If you want real HR specialization like TM/C&B/HRIS/BP/CD/OE/L&D etc, it is not likely that anyone will accept a pte deg w/o exp. You are better off doing internships in general admin/HR ops based jobs & build your career from there then waste time on it.

Unregistered 25-06-2018 11:50 PM

Is Salary Justifiable?
 
Hi, i'm 22 and earning 3.3k as a HR generalist with local SME.
Had total of 3 years of experience in this trait and
also graduating in part time private degree in HRM soon.

is the pay justifiable?

Unregistered 26-06-2018 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 108320)
Hi, i'm 22 and earning 3.3k as a HR generalist with local SME.
Had total of 3 years of experience in this trait and
also graduating in part time private degree in HRM soon.

is the pay justifiable?

yes, most HR with more exp get less pay than you do

J.N. 27-06-2018 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 108320)
Hi, i'm 22 and earning 3.3k as a HR generalist with local SME.
Had total of 3 years of experience in this trait and
also graduating in part time private degree in HRM soon.

is the pay justifiable?

It sounds ok and keep at it. I am mid-30s and doing HR in bank Paribus. I started off with recruitment agency. It is possible to hit mid-100k in 30s and should have more topside.

Unregistered 28-06-2018 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by J.N. (Post 108364)
It sounds ok and keep at it. I am mid-30s and doing HR in bank Paribus. I started off with recruitment agency. It is possible to hit mid-100k in 30s and should have more topside.

Do you mean 100k p.a in mid 30s! how should i follow your steps. haha
What should i be expecting for my next jump?

Unregistered 28-06-2018 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 108375)
Do you mean 100k p.a in mid 30s! how should i follow your steps. haha
What should i be expecting for my next jump?

isn't that like 8k per month, then include salary? would be just average if you take into account age and number of years of working experience

Unregistered 02-07-2018 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Unregistered (Post 108379)
isn't that like 8k per month, then include salary? would be just average if you take into account age and number of years of working experience

100k for mid 30s isn't really that fantastic tbh.

more uni grads would hit that number eventually. heck i know of some fresh grads that already hit that number. but those are the exception rather than the norm.

seojuns0310 24-07-2018 04:58 PM

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Originally Posted by J.N. (Post 108364)
It sounds ok and keep at it. I am mid-30s and doing HR in bank Paribus. I started off with recruitment agency. It is possible to hit mid-100k in 30s and should have more topside.

Hello there, i am a uni fresh grad currently looking for a job. I was recommended a job as a recruitment consultant. Since you have worked in an agency before, do you mind sharing with me the pros and cons of being a consultant? And also about career progression. Thanks in advance!


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