It is better to keep quiet to let people think you are stupid and talk and show you are a retard.
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still awaiting an advice. I am considering taking this Bsc in International Business & Marketing course example: Guy A holding a HRM degree Guy B holding a International Business Degree Both 0 - min experience, which one will a HR manager choose to employ ? |
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haha... really. pantry ladies and dishwashers can all rub shoulders with CEOs? what nonsense.
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Do you see the transport minister meeting a junior sales in a contractor firm to discuss the billion dollar rail project? Even if he wants to, does he have time and will the contractor boss even allow? Just an extreme example to wake up the dreamers. |
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So what is your background? You talk like some expert consultant like the elititst guy earlier, who determine the protocol? written in some law or company policy? Sorry, although Cbee admit he a junior hr consultant, he sounds much more credible than you. |
Overheard on the mrt yesterday, someone speaking to a recruiter.
Said he is looking for entry-level HR job, with WSQ diploma in HRM. Expected salary - $3000! :D :D :D |
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Hi I am a fresh grad (NUS Computing Science) have been offered a consultant position at a MNC recruitment company.
Basic is 3650, monthly incentive is 15% of billing and it goes up to 25% when exceed 2x target. Anyone can advise if this is good or can negotiate more? |
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male or female?? 3650 is good starting pay!!!, my salary after 3 years can't even hit 3.4k even with 1 promotion |
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previous experience before entering Uni ? |
Basically one born in a Baby boomer era vs a Y generation era mentality.
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Allowance not much only $200 monthly mainly for handphone. |
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The quarterly quota is 50k, but no sharing for the first 20k. So that makes the incentive (50k - 20k) x 15% = $4500. So assume I meet quota in all 4 quarter then should be $4500 x 4 = $18,000. Works out to be ~5 months bonus if I can hit quota consistently for whole year. Allowance not much only $200 monthly mainly for handphone. |
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the quota and sharing threshold is a bit low, most companies will increase once you finish probation, so better to ask them how is the process like in case get caught by surprise 6 months later. |
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I will ask the hirer about the quota after probation when I go down to sign the offer tomorrow. |
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Seriously some of the so call HR consultant here so good at talking c0ck should not waste their talents and join the sales industry instead... Just join first job after school can friend friend with Board of Director, CEO, CFO, COO, whatever. CEO for Tan Ah Kow Pte Ltd har? I hope nobody is stupid enough to believe ...
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I see the thread has been growing! But lets be objective and help each other out. (I.e. dont shoot down my qns/ opinions/ comments) Just need some advice... I'm currently in my final year (UOL) doing full time, biz degree, expecting to grad 2nd upper. Male. Really keen on going into the HR field... Just need some advice on possible salary to state when i apply for job? Some background info/ working experience: - HR project officer (FMCG) temp for 3 mths (during vacation) - HR L&D, Admin assistant (Bank) Part-time / temp for 10 mths - HR Intern - Recruitment (bank) for 3 mths (during vacation) - HR Intern (Oil & Gas) current Understand the range is 2.4k to 3.5k. Should go with 3k? Thanks in advance |
It really depends on what sort of job, you need to be more specific. HR has many kinds of jobs from low level admin to high level mgt consultants. So far your experience seems to be temp admin, this will not be worth anything when you finish school. If you want to stick with generalist admin HR Exec, 3k is too high & possible only for public sector with honors and NS, market is 2 - 2.4k for fresh grad in pte sector
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Hey thanks for the reply.
Actually not really admin role ah.... yes, do have to do admin stuff, but like 20% of the time? Like when i got time than do... Most of my past experience are like to do with projects... - Did an employee survey for the company (pretty big FMCG firm...) the full works from design to analysis and presentation. - At the banks did employee engagement projects, process streamlining and improvement, design workflow and BAU stuff.... - Currently i'm doing projects also... rolling out staff handbook for APAC region and improvement to L&D programmes and some coordination for training. I'm sure those are not really admin work like printing and doing filing... haha... For the role wise, i've yet to apply for any jobs... just asking like "what do you think" i should ask for? Obviously i will nt apply for some simple HR admin job la... lol... Quote:
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I can understand the need to exaggerate a little in your CV and job interviews, but my 2 cents advice is you better tone down on all these big words. Both your academic qualification and low level temp jobs do not support this super high flier strategic image you are trying to create, can end up quite embarrassing if you meet some guai lan interviewer who decide to tekan you. |
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If he really needed pure simple "typists/filers", he would probably get hourly rated temps (e.g. students etc) instead of graduates, which is cheaper. |
Wah... did i offend you? why do you sound offensive? Chill... i was just asking a simple question. Dont need to be so worked up...
Maybe the job titles dont do the work i've done justice... But thankfully i was able to get into roles that support SVP/VP level pple... maybe wasnt very clear i DIDNT run the whole show myself, i was involved in the team running it, some part i do take lead (as per instruction from my bosses, they mentor me...), some parts i support... basically team work, head is still boss... I thought of sparing the details, since there is no point explaining everything in detail.... we were in teams doing whatever i've mentioned. Well, in all honesty, thank you for your feedback, i will be more prepared when people ask in the future... with the details and points to validate what ive done. And in my deference, i'm not trying to create an image.. for what? lol... nothing to lose here. just asking for a simple advice.... Quote:
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Wow thank for highlighting that... could it be just a choice of words for job titles? Nevertheless, its true most of these roles are called admin executives, admin assistant...
Lol... seems like my original qns kena flame.... hahaha... for those who have constructive feedback, do let me know... chap, have 1 plus year of experience in HR, priv uni grad, how much should i put as starting pay? thank you.... Quote:
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Not surprising, HR usually get contractors to do all the admin work while the managers are busy playing politics and going around building up the company network.
It is a culture in most big companies to hire degree undergrads to run most of the management work like project driver, presentations, data analysis, resource planning, process optimization and board paper writing. |
actual job got nothing to do with official title.
it is very shallow to judge someone base on title. i can call a admin as svp means a svp job can also be call officer Quote:
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If you have strong policy making and project management experience in temp or internship, most big company are willing to offer >3.2k. If you are joining MA program, it can reach also reach 4k. |
interns doing SVP job??? what garbage….
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Interns doing SVP level job - low chances but still possible if your SVP/even higher mgmt tasks u to do his/her work.
Interns being groomed for SVP role - especially possible if your dad/mom/bro/sis/relative is someone 'big' but otherwise ... Well, anything in life is possible! |
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